Bible Questions?

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  1. OlderWaterBrother

    OlderWaterBrother May you drink deeply Lifetime Supporter

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    No, doesn't prove your point.

    No, doesn't prove your point. No, doesn't prove your point. No, doesn't prove your point.
    Too bad you didn't bother to actually read them.

    In other words you're still wrong. Sorry.
     
  2. def zeppelin

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    My mom was supposed to return from the hospital but they gave her medicine that they knew she was allergic to. It caused her heart to swell then they decided to give her a blood transplant then died soon after...

    Doctors don't really know what they are doing, bro
     
  3. OlderWaterBrother

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    No, your first comment in this thread was not a question but as you put it a getting "cute" comment.
    Ah no, you did not ask for a Biblical source, you asked for "source?" and you were given the source.
    Call it what you like but I use the bible in my answers more often than anyone else in this thread which I would say would allow others to see what the Bible says and decide for themselves.
    I do stay on topic but I do give people some leeway. Are you saying I shouldn't? Interesting.
    As I pointed out, you didn't enter this thread in search of Bible wisdom, you entered already making fun of of it.
    I don't mind any having fun in the thread but it is a place for discussing Bible questions not for questioning the Bible.
    Actually no.
    You didn't answer it and still really haven't, so what's not to like?
     
  4. Grim

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    Hahah, yeah those doctors are all part of the PLOT, man. The millions of lives they extend and save regularly are part of the plot to let that small handful they aren't able to help die!

    No, owb, I really am right. Those links all show I'm right. Science, logic, common sense, and everything short of a book of stories not meant to be taken literally say I'm right.
     
  5. OlderWaterBrother

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    No you did say it was impossible, you just implied it was, as you continue to do. When it was pointed out that you're "evidence" that John couldn't have lived to about 100, doesn't say anything of the kind, you continue to say the same thing without even bothering to try and prove it.

    Well I guess if you believe that we all descend from rocks, then for you the sky really is the limit. ;)

    Once again, you make wild assertions without proof.
     
  6. Grim

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    I'm not implying it's impossible, just extremely unlikely and an odd thing to base the validity of the entire bible on. John could have lived to be 100, but he probably didn't. He probably didn't write his part of the bible, and what is written is probably wrong.

    I believe we descend from monkeys, and failing that - we being the result of alien engineering is still more likely than your alternative.

    Jesus wrote his own gospel, yet it's not in the bible. Both Marys wrote books, neither of which appear in the bible. All of the above are as valid and 'proven' as any book in the bible; and I'd rather listen to the guy we're supposed to be listening to, his mother, and his wife than to the endlessly edited and altered version the Church has chosen to use.
     
  7. OlderWaterBrother

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    You really are in denial aren't you? You really can't see it can you? Interesting. Is it really that important to you that the Bible be wrong?
     
  8. Grim

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    Yup, I'm in denial that there are people who go beyond simply ignoring the truth and seem to actively hate it.

    I get that you've clearly based a lot of your life on all this stuff being totally 100% literally true; but plenty of rational people are Christians too and I'm sure they'd be willing to help you to be one too.
     
  9. OlderWaterBrother

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    Totally different. :rolleyes:
    The validity of the Bible is based on many things, the least of which would be whether John lived to 100 or not.
    John could have lived to be 100, and he probably did. He probably did write his part of the bible, and what is written is right.

    It's easier for you to believe we descend from monkeys or that we are the result of alien engineering, than God did it. Interesting.

    No, the above are not as valid and as "proven" as any book in the Bible and the person we should be listening to should be God and we do that by reading the Bible, not apocryphal books.
     
  10. OlderWaterBrother

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    What you are denying is that you are one of them.

    You are so caught up in yourself that you don't even bother to read what others post. Maybe this time you'll read it: I don't believe that everything in the Bible should be taken literally. Yes many of the things in the Bible literally happened but some things are just parables and some are both.
     
  11. Grim

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    I'm only going by what you've posted again and again and again and again.
     
  12. OlderWaterBrother

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    You might try actually reading the posts next time.
     
  13. Ukr-Cdn

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    To those who have had loved ones die recently, I am praying for them.

    And for you.
     
  14. worldsofdarkblue

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    Well, not monkeys exactly. But yes, the human form was evolved from an anthropoid primate. The soul, however, is as it always has been - an entity comprised of spirit and mind, just as is God.

    People tend to look at reality backwards. We do not have souls. We ARE souls - we have bodies.
     
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    Ecc 12:7:Gen 2:7:Job 14:10-12:John 11:23-24:John 11:11-14:Ezek. 18:4
     
  16. Grim

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    I have. You randomly re-interpret bible verses to mean whatever you like; and sometimes throw them at things they don't apply to whatsoever. In your mind sometimes the bible is to be taken literally and sometimes just as stories; but you seem to consider yourself the proper judge of where the line is between real stuff and crazy stories in the bible. You think that despite it being altered, edited, and reworked over the years by men that it remains the unabridged work of God and that he just meant for this to happen or changes his mind a lot. You believe that we shouldn't hear from Jesus directly or from his family members; though all of them wrote quite a bit. You believe that without the aid of any medical science; quite a few 'authors' of the bible lived into rather old age for any time period - let alone two millenia ago; and that all of them maintained all their mental faculties.

    You back everything up with verses from the very book that is called into question and ultimately create a self-fulfilling, circular prophecy that has absolutely nothing to do with the real Jesus, this force we call God, or what either of them have taught us or actually done.

    Your take on Christianity makes things like Scientology seem like rational options. Please spend half the time you take memorizing Bible passages and put it into understanding them.

    Spend the other half reading books that don't have a cross on the cover.

    And that's the end of my posting in this thread. I won't bother reading your response here; though you're welcome to PM it to me. I wonder if you can make it reasonable, thoughtful, and devoid of any emoticons or biblical stuff?
     
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    Well, to be fair, this thread was created by OlderWaterBrother for the purpose of answering questions about the Bible from his own understanding/knowledge of it.

    It's easy to forget that. I know I did. I still have to remind myself that the thread was not created for argument and I sometimes make statements of my own belief (inappropriately perhaps).
     
  18. def zeppelin

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    Yeah, me too, man

    it's easy to get carried away sometimes - We all do it.
     
  19. OlderWaterBrother

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    And yet you just said I take the Bible 100% literally. Interesting. Perhaps you should take a break and figure out what you are talking about.
    No one has proved that the Bible has been "altered, edited, and reworked over the years by men", in fact the Dead Sea scrolls prove quite the opposite.
    I believe that the Bible is the Word of God and also contains the words of Jesus, so I believe that we should hear not only the words of Jesus but of God himself.

    Also James and Jude, Jesus' brothers, penned the the Books named after them and we should read them and Jesus’ cousin, the apostle John wrote the books named after him and we should read that as well.

    But if you are continuing to say that you believe that Jesus was married and had children, then all I can say about that is, you do know that the book and the movie "The DaVinci Code" are works of fiction don't you?
    I never said quite a few I said, John, lived a long time and wrote part of the Bible in his old age.

    As for there being no "medical science", Luke, the writer of the Book named after him, was a physician.
    One, the forum you are in is for Christians only and so the Bible is considered a guide here and second, the thread is Bible questions, not question the Bible.
    :rolleyes:
    Once again you get it wrong, you'd think you'd get tired of being wrong so often. The Cross is of pagan origin and is not a true Christian symbol.
    Good, seeing as you are not a Christian and you are not staying with the OP of this thread, you shouldn't have been here in the first place.
    Why should I bother, it seems like you haven't read anything I've posted anyway?
     
  20. OlderWaterBrother

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    Well, not really, I intended for the thread to be about answering questions that people might have about the Bible, so they could better understand the Bible and that anyone could ask or answer those questions.

    And even though I have tried to answer most of the questions, there are some questions I have not answered because I thought that someone else answered it as well, if not better than I could.

    Yes, the thread was not intended for argument but I did realize that some answers may not be agreed with and a discussion of those answers would arise, so that someone could get a well rounded idea of what the Bible may say on a subject, from two or more viewpoints.

    The main trouble has been that some have tried to turn this thread into diatribe against God and the Bible, something that it was never intended to be.
     
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