Bible Questions?

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  1. thedope

    thedope glad attention Lifetime Supporter

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    So plants required no water, rivers required no rain?
     
  2. Rudenoodle

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    Judges

    1:19 And the LORD was with Judah; and he drave out the inhabitants of the mountain; but could not drive out the inhabitants of the valley, because they had chariots of iron.


    Iron is very heavy. :D
     
  3. OlderWaterBrother

    OlderWaterBrother May you drink deeply Lifetime Supporter

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    What I'm specifically saying here is think it though for yourself. Next time there is a heavy rain, see if you can see the sun. If there was enough cloud cover to rain for forty days, what do you think the change of rainbows would be? But even if there were holes in the cloud cover, it has to be raining for a rainbow to form and even then it take a very specific combination of angle of the sun to the rain drops to even form a rainbow and perhaps the release the water canopy during the flood made those conditions now possible.

    As for "all the parts of the ecosystem and nature dependent on rain", are there any? Aren't there other ways of providing moisture for those parts of the ecosystem? Don't plant roots also provide moisture? Aren't there ecosystems that depend more on heavy dew than rain?

    (Genesis 2:6) But a mist would go up from the earth and it watered the entire surface of the ground.

    The importance of dew is emphasized by the discovery that when plants have wilted from the heat, they have recovered more rapidly when moisture condensed on their leaves at night than they did when the ground was watered. They absorbed so much moisture that they functioned normally during the succeeding day without any watering of the ground. The amount of water absorbed from dew and later excreted through the roots into the soil for storage sometimes equaled the plant’s entire weight.
     
  4. OlderWaterBrother

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    Why yes, yes it is. :D But not as heavy as Gold or Lead, what's your point?
     
  5. Rudenoodle

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    It would seem that this all powerful being was quite perterbed by a few rusty chariots, just seems odd to.
     
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    And just for making that God optimistic the Cops will MAKE it impossible to count on a democratic quorum for understanding His intentions or even believing in His intentions being Good for man for let's say a dead man lying in the ditch OR the reduction of crime in the community.

    Wel, at least in Christianity, the police deserve their vote at ellection time to be counted twice.:cool:
     
  7. thedope

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    Rain is not required for rainbows, only droplets in suspension such as at the base of a water fall, sun shining through cirrus clouds, or washing a car with a hose.
     
  8. Rudenoodle

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    Your meds are ready.
     
  9. Grim

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    So your position is that it never rained before the Flood, and that if it stopped raining tomorrow everything would carry on just fine?

    Neat.
     
  10. OlderWaterBrother

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    Although my "position" may be that it never rained before the flood, I never said or implied any such thing about what would happen now if it stopped raining. Conditions are quite different now on the Earth, because since the Flood the earth no longer has the water canopy it once had before the flood,
     
  11. aFoolOnaHill

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    The bible says that there was a water canopy?
     
  12. stoney69

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    what about the sun, moon and all that floats in the orbit ?
     
  13. Ukr-Cdn

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    It says that God separated the "waters above" and "waters below" with a firmament called heaven or sky. That is Genesis 1.

    One of the Flood accounts has the waters above and below meeting as though creation was being reversed. The other Noah story has it just raining for a loooong time (40 days and nights to be precise).
     
  14. aFoolOnaHill

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    What does that have to do with a water canopy?

    "the waters above and below meeting as though creation was being reversed" = "just raining for a loooong time"

    ...They're called clouds ya'll :D
     
  15. OlderWaterBrother

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    Perhaps so but when was the last time you saw, just clouds, rain for forty days? :D
     
  16. aFoolOnaHill

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    Just because I haven't seen it doesn't mean it doesn't exist.

    (and it doesn't make the bible say anything about a water canopy either)

    Also, I think they get close in Seattle. :D
     
  17. Rudenoodle

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    Matthew

    6:26 Behold the fowls of the air: for they sow not, neither do they reap, nor gather into barns; yet your heavenly Father feedeth them. Are ye not much better than they?


    Jesus says that God feeds them. But, if so, he does one hell of a lousy job at it. Most birds die before leaving the nest, and the few who manage to fly soon die painful deaths of thirst, starvation, predation, disease, or exposure. If God is caring for them, pray that he stays away from you.
     
  18. thedope

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    Hang out in Puget Sound for a while.
     
  19. thedope

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    The problem here is that you are expecting miracles. Are you in any different position than the birds. What will be the description of your demise?
     
  20. OlderWaterBrother

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    The Scripture says God feeds them without them having to sow or reap or gather into barns. The Scripture says nothing about thirst, predation, disease, or exposure. There is nothing in the Bible that says birds will live forever and thus they will die of something and in doing so provide food for others. It's called the cycle of life, heard of it?

    So yes, "Johnny", all birds will die but in the meantime they time they don't worry or fret nor are they anxious about what they are to eat or wear or whether they will die and that is the point of the Scripture, that we should not be overly concerned with the mundane things in life to the point that we forget that we do not live on bread alone.
     
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