Bible Questions?

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  1. OlderWaterBrother

    OlderWaterBrother May you drink deeply Lifetime Supporter

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    Some believe that the mythology of Greece and Rome were based on the stories of the fallen angels and their sons and that would include Hercules.
     
  2. stoney69

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    thats a definition of dodge, right there
     
  3. Rudenoodle

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    Now you need to find away to incorporate Conan into the old testament.
     
  4. Grim

    Grim Wandering Wonderer

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    Some believe the entire Christian belief is essentially the core features of numerous pagan belief structures rehashed and 'dumbed down' for the masses.
     
  5. OlderWaterBrother

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    Actually I was just trying to be nice, so I wouldn't have to tell you how stupid you are for asking for chapter and verse for Scriptures that were already quoted by Rudenoodle but you just don't know how to leave well enough a lone. :rolleyes:
     
  6. OlderWaterBrother

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    You are correct, most of "Christianity" is exactly what you say it is but true Christianity has nothing to do with "pagan belief structures".
     
  7. Rudenoodle

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    Genesis

    9:13 I do set my bow in the cloud, and it shall be for a token of a covenant between me and the earth.

    9:14 And it shall come to pass, when I bring a cloud over the earth, that the bow shall be seen in the cloud:

    9:15 And I will remember my covenant, which is between me and you and every living creature of all flesh; and the waters shall no more become a flood to destroy all flesh.


    God is rightly filled with remorse for having killed his creatures. He makes a deal with the animals, promising never to drown them all again. He even puts the rainbow in the sky so that whenever he sees it, it will remind him of his promise so that he won't be tempted to do it again. (Every time God sees the rainbow he says to himself: "Oh, yeah.... That's right. I promised not to drown the animals again. I guess I'll have to find something else to do.")

    The question is this, why would an omniscience god need to create a reminder on the physical world not to create a masive flood again?
     
  8. OlderWaterBrother

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    The Rainbow is like a signature on a contract, it validates God's promise to never bring the Earth to ruin again by Flood.
     
  9. Rudenoodle

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    How do you figure it is a signature on a contract, what is this theory supported by?

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    Why would the simple word of god be enough to keep his promise to his faithful masses, it's as though a legal binding contract must have been exercised in this particular case, has god been known to squelch a deal from time to time? :D
     
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    Signed with disappearing ink.
     
  11. thedope

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    I know you are an intelligent man. You claim to be a reasonable man. Does it seem reasonable to you that the refraction of light through rain drops, is a phenomena that only began post flood?
     
  12. def zeppelin

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    God's Covenant With Noah

    Genesis 9:12-17

    And God said, "This is the sign of the covenant I am making between me and you and every living creature with you, a covenant for all generations to come: I have set my rainbow in the clouds, and it will be the sign of the covenant between me and the earth. Whenever I bring clouds over the earth and the rainbow appears in the clouds, I will remember my covenant between me and you and all living creatures of every kind. Never again will the waters become a flood to destroy all life. Whenever the rainbow appears in the clouds, I will see it and remember the everlasting covenant between God and all living creatures of every kind on the earth." So God said to Noah, "This is the sign of the covenant I have established between me and all life on the earth."
     
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    Signed by the rainbow :D
     
  14. Ukr-Cdn

    Ukr-Cdn Striving towards holiness

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    There is a reason Catholic and Orthodox Christians regularly affirm the sacramental nature of God's interaction with the world and the world itself.

    The Rainbow is a way we can experience God's presence. God's covenant is physically represented in the world. We do not have to try and grasp some intangible spirit through merely talking. in the world and through the world is how god reaches to us. He loves the world so much that he was Incarnate in the Blessed Virgin Mary by the power of the Holy Spirit. He entered the world in order to save it.
     
  15. OlderWaterBrother

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    Where do you think the rain for the flood came from?
     
  16. Grim

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    He brings up a good question.
    Were there just no rainbows pre-flood? And if so, did God simply change the way physics and nature work at that moment, or is it just one of those "stop talking about it" things like when Star Trek does time travel?
     
  17. OlderWaterBrother

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    Where do you think the rain for the flood came from?
     
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    Are you suggesting there was no rain before the flood?
    Rain is liquid precipitation, as opposed to other kinds of precipitation such as snow, hail and sleet. Rain requires the presence of a thick layer of the atmosphere to have temperatures above the melting point of water near and above the Earth's surface. On Earth, it is the condensation of atmospheric water vapor into drops of water heavy enough to fall, often making it to the surface. Two processes, possibly acting together, can lead to air becoming saturated leading to rainfall: cooling the air or adding water vapour to the air. Virga is precipitation that begins falling to the earth but evaporates before reaching the surface; it is one of the ways air can become saturated. Precipitation forms via collision with other rain drops or ice crystals within a cloud. Rain drops range in size from oblate, pancake-like shapes for larger drops, to small spheres for smaller drops.
     
  19. OlderWaterBrother

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    The flood is the first mention of rain in the Bible.
    Since it did rain for thirty days, before the Flood there may have been a thick water canopy that would not allow for the Sun to cause rainbows.
     
  20. Grim

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    The clever zen master answering a question with a question.

    But what are you saying here, specifically? That it never rained pre-flood and that all the parts of the ecosystem and nature dependent on rain were just operating on faith...or that it rained but rainbows didn't happen and then God changed the rules post-flood?
     
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