Bible Questions?

Did everyone (except for Noah and his family) die in the flood?

Yes, everything died except for those on the ark.

Genesis 7:21-23

And all flesh died that moved upon the earth, both of fowl, and of cattle, and of beast, and of every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth, and every man: All in whose nostrils was the breath of life, of all that was in the dry land, died. And every living substance was destroyed which was upon the face of the ground, both man, and cattle, and the creeping things, and the fowl of the heaven; and they were destroyed from the earth: and Noah only remained alive, and they that were with him in the ark.

No, some survived.

Genesis 6:4

There were giants in the earth in those days; and also after that, when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men, and they bare children to them, the same became mighty men which were of old, men of renown.

Numbers 13:33

And there we saw the giants, the sons of Anak, which come of the giants: and we were in our own sight as grasshoppers, and so we were in their sight.

 

Only old testament literalists can be this ______.

 

Only old testament literalists can be this intelligent.

FIX'D

But to be fair, he isn't a literalist...

 

quistion--why- if god for sees the out come of all then why did he allow man to sin and have to send his son? what is gained in the big picture? is it free will cause i dont feel that really holds up.

 

To my understanding, God has foreknowledge of what we will do in the same way a mother has foreknowledge that their child will not clean their room. Another example would be knowing that 10% of a companies employees will call in sick tomorrow yet not knowing which ten percent. God knows through wisdom in this way, rather than knowing which choices we will choose. Say we choose to cross the street or not, that choice isn't known by God, but he would know that you would probably cross a street eventually.

Through God's wisdom, he knows which choices will lead towards. If say, a whole nation worships idols, he will know that nation will eventually be failed by those idols and how that choice will result for the people of that nation that follows idols. In the same way, God knows that the choices throughout human history will lead to a certain event, but this knowing does not take away our free will because the people are still choosing.

 

Ya know it is funny I have been thinking about this tool song “right in two” for several


days now cause it has struck a cord - or a new thought in my head- philosophy type stuff .

Monkeys killing monkeys--god gives them free will -and this is what they choose.
perhaps you can appreciate the thought .

Free will has always been the argument ( or explanation) that the church had when asked why did god do all of this in the first place - you know let man sin then send his son to die and save the saints - why the big hassle why not just make us like the angels…

They say that the angels did not have free will - they were born into service of god .

But of course that argument never really held because if Satan rose u p and wanted to be like god and a third of the host of heaven followed him - then obviously free will already existed .

But see the part that trips me out about the song is here the angels are watching gods new creature and wondering what will become of the free will - what will become of these creature who are not born into the sight and service of god .but are born separated and un aware of god… And to the horror of the angels man begins killing each other .

I guess I find it interesting to think that in the absence of a parental figure we have a greater tendency toward the freedom of choice -- however with the parental figure we find we must rebel ..

Both paths are a matter of finding our own identity. So it seem to me that the first realization of self awareness comes with sight and sound ( finding your place in the depths of space around you…

But the second step of self awareness comes through action- the action of eliminating those who get in the way of your greed and lust…

A little creepy
Maybe Charlie Mansion was right.

 

nice picture you paint-- but it does not even aproach the question---why

 

Because he thought it would be fun... just like stinkfoot

 

Thanks

Why?

I imagine the reason why God had given us free will because he thought it better to give us free will than to not give us free will. He must have understood, in his way of understanding and knowledge, that free will would be best overall; being given choices rather than being puppets

 

Fun is a part of God and so is laughter

Who's stinkfoot?

 

So in conclusion, what was once thought to be such a great gift for man, is in fact nothing more than a lesson for the angels. In fact, man him self is nothing more than a lesson for the angels.

Now that the lesson has been taught, man is no longer needed. We are the aftermath of a lesson, (a test, an experiment). We are chaff. Of no value, to be blown away in the wind.
Now that they have learned they don’t want to think of us any more. They don’t want to hear us or remember what we are, or what they have done.

But we still exist. So they stick us in a cage, under a vale. In a dark room away from them.

So in return we declare war on god. We will stop believing in him- therefore he stops having power over us.

if a tree falls in the woods and no one hears it did it make noise?

If no one listens or response does god still exist?

We will put him in a cage under a vale …
I bind you god from doing harm- harm to your self and harm to others…
I bind you god from doing harm- harm to your self and harm to others…
I bind you god from doing harm- harm to your self and harm to others…


- except in reality God “what5 ever you may perceive that to be” must be a part of everything around you and not able to be defined by one set of writings

 

But in the end he burns all the ones who thought and acted for them selves. and enjoys the smoke of their torment rising up before his thrown for eternity.. So how is it free will , if it is my way or else???

 

I believe God trancends time and space so he can be everywhere at all times and he can see all times. So he sees what you were doing 5 minutes ago, he can see what you are doing now and he sees what you will be doing 5 minutes from now.

This does not mean however that he forces anyone to make the choices they make.

As far as why He chose to create things the way he did I'm not sure. I don't know the future, but I believe everything happens for a reason even if it looks like a horrible mistake at the time.

 

I know I am an antagonistic bastard, but in all fairness this is the real question that must be answered before one can even begin down this religious path

 

Edit: heheh, I always mix up skip and stinkfoot...

 

So why don't you answer it then?

 

Man is still very important to God. All God wanted of man was to live forever in paradise. God is working, along with his Sons, to bring us back to the perfection that Man once had.

Not sure about your question concerning being a lesson to the Angels.

This is part of our problem and not a solution.

Many would say no, but I believe that things exist even when we don't know that it does.

If we close our eyes, is the person in front of us no longer there?

I believe so.

I think it is the other way around. We caged ourselves then later blame God that we are entrapped

If God wrote a book, he would be able to fully describe himself to man as best as man, in their current state, can understand. But as the old saying goes, anything is possible with God.

The Jews believe/believed that we are a part of God's dream. Since we are inside his dream, then God is both everywhere and everything.

 

Thought he already did

 

See here is what bothers me if you follow the bible as I understand it you have the picture painted for you about what happens form here on out. End times , the anti christ, judgment day, and the rest of eternity. But no one can say why this needs to be what has brought us to this place.

I would also like to point out that if you look at mans existence in terms of what we know about Jesus. Then you have to divide man into 3 groups. Those who were before Jesus, those who walked with him, and us. Please note that the other two groups had tangible evidence of his claims they saw him rise for the dead and those before saw him descend and free them . But not us , with us it is all on faith or die.

 

Just like a dream, the characters within the dream runs by its own rules. They appear to be moving and behaving on their own without the dreamers help. They have their own personalities and choices that seem so different from that of the dreamer. In the same way, the universe is like this dream and God is that dreamer.

If God were to lucid dream, then all the characters within his dream would all "die" since they are all being controlled and manipulated by the dreamer.

God is not lucid dreaming and has forgotten the rules that he created. The universes rules may make as much sense as a dream, but it accomplishes what is expected by the dreamer and that is all that matters.

The best analogy I can come with concerning free will