Bible Questions?

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  1. FlowerChild 21st Century

    FlowerChild 21st Century Member

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    For an answer to the first question, yes God is love, but He is also Just and therefore must punish those who deserve to be punished (which is all of us), but out of His love for us He made a way, through Jesus Christ for us to not have to endure hellfire. This shows His true love for us.
     
  2. OlderWaterBrother

    OlderWaterBrother May you drink deeply Lifetime Supporter

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    It does make a difference if you live by it or not, even an Atheist will have a better life if he lives by Bible principles, whether he knows e is or not, although he and his family will not have the comfort that serving God can bring.

    God is not "annoyed' that we don't follow His every word, no more than any father would be "annoyed" that his son doesn't follow his advice and then things go badly for him.

    As for this "hell" thing, I'm sorry that you've tasted of a "Christianity" that has gone bad and it has made you "sick", true Christianity does not teach of a "hell" that is a place of suffering.
     
  3. OlderWaterBrother

    OlderWaterBrother May you drink deeply Lifetime Supporter

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    :rolleyes:
     
  4. sw0o0sh

    sw0o0sh Banned

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    A concept of need and lack is a concept made by men, not God. Some seem to place the blame on this so-called God for all the misfortunes they encounter in their life, when really they should be placing the blame on their own lack of forgiveness towards themselves, others, and the world around them. If you were to ask me, misfortune in the scheme of things is one of the best blessing you can receive.
     
  5. Monkey Boy

    Monkey Boy Senior Member

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    Exactly. That when you learn what to put your trust in. Something that doesn't fail or change.
     
  6. TipsyGypsy

    TipsyGypsy Light of a Fading Star

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    Such as?
     
  7. Monkey Boy

    Monkey Boy Senior Member

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    Isn't that for you to find out?
     
  8. TipsyGypsy

    TipsyGypsy Light of a Fading Star

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    I wasn't going to start believing in something you suggested!

    Is there anything that you can believe in that doesn't change? Everything changes over time.
     
  9. Monkey Boy

    Monkey Boy Senior Member

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    Yeah, you're right. Perhaps "something" is the wrong word. No thing. The source of all things.
     
  10. thedope

    thedope glad attention Lifetime Supporter

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    Reality is an inviolate constant. It is non local, nor is it remote. What is not real does not exist.
     
  11. Monkey Boy

    Monkey Boy Senior Member

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    Why not?:( j/k I really think everyone needs to come to their own conclusions to approach anything resembling authentic belief. There's nothing like having true conviction.
     
  12. OlderWaterBrother

    OlderWaterBrother May you drink deeply Lifetime Supporter

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    Yes, there is.
    (Malachi 3:6) “For I am Jehovah; I have not changed.
    (James 1:17) Every good gift and every perfect present is from above, for it comes down from the Father of the [celestial] lights, and with him there is not a variation of the turning of the shadow.
     
  13. TipsyGypsy

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    Yeah absolutely. I would never follow something because someone else does, nor would I try and force anyone to believe what I do.
     
  14. TipsyGypsy

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    But, people have changed the idea of God. There are so many denominations,a ll claiming to be the one that Jesus would have wanted, yet all have different views and ideas of God and how we should act.

    What is the point of having Baptists, C of E, Catholicism, seventh day adventists etc.. etc.. Maybe God changes to fir into each of these?

    So if God never changes, which would mean He knows everything so has nothing to learn - what exactly was the point of creation?

    If He had to create us, He wouldn't have known if He would love us or what we would turn out like.
     
  15. OlderWaterBrother

    OlderWaterBrother May you drink deeply Lifetime Supporter

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    How people think or act does not change who God is.

    It is not God who wants all the various denominations. God has set out in the Bible only one way to properly worship.

    It was for our benefit, quite honestly would you rather never have existed?

    God may not have known how we would turn out but would always love us. Parents never know how their children will turn out but good parents will always love their children regardless.
     
  16. TipsyGypsy

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    So how do you justify all the denominations?

    Well, if I had never existed I wouldn't be able to know the answer to that would I? :tongue:
     
  17. OlderWaterBrother

    OlderWaterBrother May you drink deeply Lifetime Supporter

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    Jesus indicated that there would be many called Christians but only the doing the will of the Father would be actual Christians.
    (Matthew 7:21-23) “Not everyone saying to me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter into the kingdom of the heavens, but the one doing the will of my Father who is in the heavens will. Many will say to me in that day, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name, and expel demons in your name, and perform many powerful works in your name?’ And yet then I will confess to them: I never knew YOU! Get away from me, YOU workers of lawlessness.
    Exactly.
     
  18. TipsyGypsy

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    Those being?

    So, I guess no one will ever know whether it would have been better to have never existed at all.
     
  19. OlderWaterBrother

    OlderWaterBrother May you drink deeply Lifetime Supporter

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    Those doing the will of the Father.
    That's true but you have to exist even to think about the question.
     
  20. TipsyGypsy

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    So anyone from any denomination could be doing that.
     
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