Bible Questions?

According to the Bible with God all things are possible yet it is also said God can't die. How can this supposed contradiction be explained?

 

Jeremiah

4:4 Circumcise yourselves to the LORD, and take away the foreskins of your heart, ye men of Judah and inhabitants of Jerusalem: lest my fury come forth like fire, and burn that none can quench it, because of the evil of your doings.


Seriously? :rofl:

 

It is also impossible for God to lie.

 

Is God comprised of 3 entities?

As soon as Jesus was baptized, he went up out of the water. At that moment heaven was opened, and he saw the Spirit of God descending like a dove and lighting on him. 17And a voice from heaven said, "This is my Son, whom I love; with him I am well pleased." (Matt 3:16)

 

No

 

More a singular creative process. A law without opposite.
Thought, Word, Deed.
In the beginning was the word = thought.

and the word was with God = word.

and the word was God = deed.

 

I don't believe in the trinity that there are three infinite Gods, but a Godhead makes sense to me. Each form doing what the others can't do.

1. God the Father to provide for us
2. God the son to die for us
3. God the holy spirit to guide us.

It can be compared to H20. You can swim in water but not in ice or steam. Steam can defy gravity, but ice or water can't. Ice can be skated on, but the other two can't.
Three different phases, but with the same substance.

 

Fo reals

 

that is not what the dogma of the Trinity says exactly anyways. I also do not believe in three separate gods.

Your analogy is closer to what the dogma says anyways.

 

I do see Jesus as being a mediator between God and man, but I also see him as being the ultimate representative of God because the other representatives were in the form of spirit -- I don't believe in a Godhead -- So when it is said, "God with us", it means that Jesus was a human representative of God and Jesus spoke on behalf of God.

There is God, and there is the son that is in the likeness and image of God. Through the son is everything made under the right of God to do so.

We could say that God could have created Noah's ark for him, but God didn't and asked Noah to do it. I believe the reason for this is because God wants to create a bond between us by being equal partners in his creation. I believe that the same idea can be applied to Jesus. Jesus is his own being as Noah was his own being and both were privileged to work alongside of God but they both did it under their own volition. I believe that is part of the glory of Jehovah; we work towards his plan not by force but because who can really say no to him when the time calls for it? The better question is; why say no if he asks us to do something if we know who God is and have trust in him? Saying no is the equivalent of refusing free money; it makes no sense.

To me, it's not so much that God can't do it but that he won't do it without taking our own freedoms away and what it means to be sentient.

I mean why say God and the holy spirit are different when it is the same? Why say God and Jesus are the same being when God can't die? I believe Jesus is his own person and is not God.

Although, like I have talked to Ukr-Cdn about, I sometimes can see how they can be the same God, and I can see how Jesus was the literal bread/the mana of God made flesh. Sometimes I am unsure.

But I don't think it's that important in the long run, really, because in the end, Jesus said to not praise him but to praise God in heaven. Worship isn't supposed to be directed to Jesus. So if Jesus is God then if we pray to Jehovah then we can say we are also praying to Jesus, but if not then it's alllll good :biggrin:

 

I pretty much agree with everything you're saying, but from what I've read I think scripture supports a Godhead. It goes back to Genesis

Genesis 1:26 where it states, "And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness

Even the word God "Elohim" is plural for more than one God.

This Doesn't mean Jesus is the same as the Fathe because it says

Matthew 24:36, "But of that day and hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels of heaven, but my Father only.

Hebrews also supports Jesus as part of a Godhead

Hebrews 1:8-9, "But unto the Son he saith, Thy throne, O God, is for ever and ever: a sceptre of righteousness is the sceptre of thy kingdom. Thou hast loved righteousness, and hated iniquity; therefore God, even thy God, hath anointed thee with the oil of gladness above thy fellows."

I found a verse that talk about the role of the Holy Spirit.

John 14:16,26, "And I will pray the Father, and he shall give you another Comforter, that he may abide with you for ever; But the Comforter, which is the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in my name, he shall teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you."

This verse that also supports a Godhead

Matthew 28:19, "Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost:"

I think we almost believe the same thing except I believe Jesus is also divine only in a different way.

 

How do explain that if what you say is true, God allowed his people to be mislead, for thousands of years as to the nature of the of the God they worshiped. The Hebrews never understood either Gen. 1:2 or the word "Elohim" to mean a godhead our multiple Gods.

 

Is the word used in Psalm 22:17 Karu 'to pierce' or Ka'ari 'like a lion'? or Karah V "To shrivel"?

At Psalm 22:17, it reads:

For dogs have surrounded Me;
The congregation of the wicked has enclosed Me.
They pierced My hands and My feet;

In the Hebrew Bible that same verse reads:

For dogs have encompassed me; a company of evil-doers have inclosed me; like a lion, they are at my hands and my feet.

In the first it uses the word Karu which is rendered as 'to pierce', but in the second use is it ka'ari which means 'like a lion'.

"Rather, Roberts proposes that we should recognize here a previously
unrecognized root, karah V "to be short[ened], shrunken, shriveled" cognate
with Syriac and Akkadian karu, "to be short[ened]." In Akkadian, this root
is used in medical diagnostic texts to describe illnesses that disfigure the
hands and/or feet. Thus Roberts translates Psalm 22:17c "My hands and feet"
are shriveled."

How are we to understand this confusion?

Video Source, Article Source

 

I'm not sure if they were mislead I'm just trying to understand what the Bible is saying. So far there's a lot of evidence for a Godhead imo. Also, I'm pretty convinced that Michael is Jesus after studying all the evidence. I still believe Christ is greater than an angel based on Hebrews 1. He just came to the angels as an angel much like he came as a man to men.

I found some more verses relating to a Godhead fwiw.

Genesis 22:11-12, "And the angel of the LORD called unto him out of heaven, and said, Abraham, Abraham: and he said, Here am I. And he said, Lay not thine hand upon the lad, neither do thou any thing unto him: for now I know that thou fearest God, seeing thou hast not withheld thy son, thine only son from me."

Isaiah 6:3 where it says, "And one cried unto another, and said, Holy, holy, holy, is the LORD of hosts: the whole earth is full of his glory."

Acts 7:59, "And they stoned Stephen, calling upon God, and saying, Lord Jesus, receive my spirit."

 

Could Michael have said that on behalf of God instead of meaning himself? Throughout the Bible, Angels always point to God and when Jacob wrestled with God he wrestled with an Angel, but it was attributed to wrestling with God.

 

It could be looked at that way, but so many parts of the Bible like John 1 for example "the word was God and became flesh" point to Jesus as being part of God. Or like in Revelation

Revelation 1:5-6, "And from Jesus Christ, who is the faithful witness, and the first begotten of the dead, and the prince of the kings of the earth. Unto him that loved us, and washed us from our sins in his own blood, And hath made us kings and priests unto God and his Father; to him be glory and dominion for ever and ever. Amen."

It's pretty confusing for me, but I'm definitely leaning toward the Godhead doctrine the more I study.

 

the NWT reads: For dogs have surrounded me; The assembly of evildoers themselves have enclosed me. Like a lion [they are at] my hands and my feet. (Psalm 22:16)

Thus Psalm 22:16 foretold that his hands and feet would be wounded.

 

does Revelation ever come a cross a little bit too fairtale titled?? like all the symbolism makes the book look like a Lords of the Ring book.....no offense to anyone.

 

Only revelation?

 

Looks like someone probably changed the meaning to pierced from like a lion. That's kind of disturbing, but pretty trivial imo. I read more about it and the dead sea scrolls also say ka'ari or "like a lion"