Bible Questions?

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  1. thedope

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    A judgment against in all honesty, robs us of our capacity to appreciate.
     
  2. Monkey Boy

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    So do we have a spirit and a body?

    5hand this man over to Satan, so that the sinful nature[a] may be destroyed and his spirit saved on the day of the Lord (1 cor 5:5)
     
  3. OlderWaterBrother

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    Honestly, I've always been a little fuzzy about spirit.

    We seem to have spirit and there are spirit creatures. So spirit seems to be an active force that God uses to do things but God, it seems is able to make creatures that have "bodies" made of that active force, such as angels.

    Long story short, Yes, it seems we have spirit and a body and it seems that the spirit is the force that brings the body to life.
     
  4. thedope

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    Animus animates animal.

    We are spirit reaching toward spirit in all things. The body is a functionary of life, not the container of it. A communication device tuned to the spectral bandwidth 98.6 on the dial.
     
  5. jmt

    jmt Ezekiel 25:17

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    can Christian be cursed? or have bad luck for a while?
     
  6. thedope

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    Yes, as you curse you are cursed. As you are merciful you know mercy.
    For a while? You have all the time there is.
     
  7. OlderWaterBrother

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    Well,the Bible says; time and unforeseen circumstance befalls us all. So yes, a string of bad things can happen to anyone but as for being cursed, as long as we have on the complete suit of armor that God supplies, no one but God can curse us and that would depend on our own doings. ;)
     
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    And we know that in all things God works for the good of those who love him,[j] who[k] have been called according to his purpose. 31What, then, shall we say in response to this? If God is for us, who can be against us? (Romans 8:28,31)
     
  9. thedope

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    And what constitutes doing. Everyone who looks at a woman lustfully has already committed adultery.
     
  10. OlderWaterBrother

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    Why do you continue to cut this scripture short? Is it so it appears to say what you want it to, rather than what it actually says?
     
  11. jmt

    jmt Ezekiel 25:17

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    cuz hiz da dope! YO! :D:p
     
  12. OlderWaterBrother

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    Should'a known. :rolleyes:
     
  13. Monkey Boy

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    Even Paul struggled with sin, but at the same time we have the spirit so God condemns the sinful nature, but we can choose to put our minds on the spirit.

    21So I find this law at work: When I want to do good, evil is right there with me. 22For in my inner being I delight in God's law; 23but I see another law at work in the members of my body, waging war against the law of my mind and making me a prisoner of the law of sin at work within my members. 24What a wretched man I am! Who will rescue me from this body of death? 25Thanks be to God—through Jesus Christ our Lord!
    So then, I myself in my mind am a slave to God's law, but in the sinful nature a slave to the law of sin. (Romans 7:21-24)
     
  14. thedope

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    I am not cutting short. I have not disturbed the progression in your mind. I am bringing to the fore the immediacy of these things. What is the more relevant point, that these things are done, or from your perspective, that we are judged for them "later."
    To go on adultery has been committed "with her". That which we had chosen for ourselves we also share with them. Our liability becomes theirs as well. As you do unto the least of these you do also unto me.

    Unless our righteousness exceeds that of the scribes and Pharisees, we will never enter the kingdom of heaven.
     
  15. thedope

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    Sinful nature as well, a quality of mind.
     
  16. OlderWaterBrother

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    The actual scripture says; " . . .But I say to YOU that everyone that keeps on looking at a woman so as to have a passion for her has already committed adultery with her in his heart.. . ." but you keep cutting it short by leaving off the "in his heart" part which changes the meaning of what is said. So the question remains; Why do you keep cutting it short? :D
     
  17. thedope

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    And it is out of the abundance of the heart a man speaketh. From within, out of the heart of man come evil thoughts. What am I cutting short?
     
  18. OlderWaterBrother

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    Well, the scripture for one thing and for another, the trip from the heart to the outside. ;)
     
  19. thedope

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    Closer than our hand and nearer than our heart. What trip out of the heart might you be referring to? The statement is if you look lustfully adultery has already been committed. How does the addition of "in his heart" change the fact that it is done? We are liable for every careless word we utter. Your suggestion that I am leaving something out in order that the statement may conform to my meaning is simply not true. Like I say, I did not interrupt any continuity. We both know what is written without even looking and the sayings are part of our everyday vocabulary.
     
  20. OlderWaterBrother

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    The fact is that it has not been done, it has not been acted on.

    Jesus said that the only reason for divorce is adultery, does adultery in the heart allow you to divorce someone?

    No, actual physical adultery, outside of the heart, has to occur.

    So, there is a difference between adultery in the heart and actual adultery.

    Jesus was here telling us if we try to clean up the heart and its motivations the things we do will take care of themselves, that sin does not occur in the heart but motivation to sin starts there. (James 1:14-15)


    If you wish to interpret the Bible at least use the whole scripture and not just parts of them.
     
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