Bible Questions? III

So you are saying that when God's word says that God set up a theocracy, it is wrong and you are right. Interesting.

Exactly, there is only one true religion.

Yes it does.

Yes, we know things by their fruitage.

What are you getting at.

So?

Tithe?

How do you figure that I am speaking for both God and Satan, sin and no sin? I show you what the Bible says about God and Satan and suddenly I'm speaking for Satan, a bit of a leap don't you think?

True

What?

No it isn't. The Bible nowhere says that our battle is between God and mammon. Our battle is against wicked spirit forces.

And as I said, God has asked us to obey the state, as long as it doesn't conflict with what God has told us to do.

Yes, that is what I said.

How so? You said that only God gives value and I merely pointed out that there are somethings that have value that God did not assign a value to.

That is not required of anyone.

 

Good question.
(Genesis 5:3-4) And Adam lived on for a hundred and thirty years. Then he became father to a son in his likeness, in his image, and called his name Seth. And the days of Adam after his fathering Seth came to be eight hundred years. Meanwhile he became father to sons and daughters.

 

Does that mean you're going to stop trying to teach "other doctrine"?

 

"Commonly regarded" by who, not by true Christians.

 

Matt 19: 20-22

 

I appreciate your accusation brother. You have called me heretic many times.

 

What other doctrine would that be. I have offered you nothing other than the innocent son of God and you consistently insist that I am guilty.

 

There are many true religions, called religions of the world, There is however one level of creation that accounts for everything.

Yes it does in the overtly violent throwing the money changers out of the temple. Evil forces, yes, a den of robbers and thieves. This is a crecendo moment in the play. This is an utterly essential pillar of his teaching. No man should judge another, his value is determined by the creator.

 

God created the world and all that is in it and saw that it was good, very good.
Additionally the knowledge of good and evil will cause you to kill and die.
We know not what we do. Satan was a liar from the beginning. The "fall" is something that happened in a dream, a deep sleep fell over him. No where do we wake up until we here the call to awaken, be vigilant only for God, not "good and evil". Sin is a slander, against the holy child of god.

 

Interesting but I don't see where it says it is a requirement, perhaps you can show that to me?

 

Actually I have never called you a heretic, I simply do not use the word, although I have said that you seem to be mislead by your "spirit" guide, mainly because you often disagree with God's word the Bible.

 

So you say but as I have pointed out several times, you have a tenancy to make things up and deviate from God's word.

 

So then what are you saying about the fact that the Bible shows that God has set up a theocracy.

 

Satan would like us to think that but No, there is only one true religion.

Jesus did not throw the money changers out of the temple because he was battling against money changers or mammon, we never hear of Jesus doing that anywhere other than the temple, He did it because they were turning the house of God into a den of thieves.

No, it is not a pillar of his teaching, the main reason it is even mentioned is that it fulfills another prophecy about the messiah, that he would have zeal for his father's house.

Actually this whole judging thing is misunderstood by many, the Bible also indicates that there times when we should judge others.

 

You do go on, the trouble is that you take scripture out of context, mix them together add a few words of your own and because of the scriptures used it has a certain ring of truth, much like when Satan used scripture to tempt Jesus but it was pointed out to Satan that he was not using the scriptures properly

 

There are many layers of meaning in scripture. While the temple on one hand is a building on the other the temple of God is the devotional heart of man. The money changer has invaded the temple of mans heart to heart relations,
(Holy Encounters), we find one another worthy or not for love, "why should I care, you don't do anything for me?" Worthy or not to participate in life, "don't mind him, he is a bum". Worthy or not for forgiveness, "i am done with you, you never listen"
Yeah he has zeal for his fathers house, but his fathers house does not stand alone in Jerusalem.
And yes this is a pillar of his teaching, love does not seek it's own. It is devoid of "profit motive". However, where your treasure lies there is your heart also. We cherish the things we value.

I do not misunderstand the judging thing and Christ's teaching on it. Waterbrother, we must condemn to justify our unwillingness to forgive.

Again you say "give us Barabbas"

 

If you are to be perfect. You claimed it was not required of anyone.

 

Heretic,
1. somebody who holds unorthodox religious belief: a holder or adherent of an opinion or belief that contradicts established religious teaching
2. somebody with unconventional beliefs: somebody whose opinions, beliefs, or theories in any field are considered by others in that field to be extremely unconventional or unorthodox

Whereas you do not specifically say heretic your actions fulfill the definition.
Not every one who says to me lord lord shall enter, but those who do the will of the father.
With their mouths they worship but their heart is far from me.

 

This is what I said
Originally Posted by thedope View Post
When you pray, pray to your father in secret as he knows you in secret.
This does not sound like theocracy. Praying in secret is a far cry from the state codification of worship. If God is apolitical then no politic comes from him. Politic is displaying shrewdness tact or cunning, non of which is required in the face of absolute power