Bible Questions? III

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  1. OlderWaterBrother

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    Funny, that is not the way you talk about it and you seem to need to check from time your memory of it, because you seem to forget what it says.
    And I am telling you the Bible is alive and you continue to distance yourself from it by saying things like "the bible is a book" as if to say it has no import than any other book.
    Is that why Jesus quoted from the Bible so often? Because he thought it contained the traditions of man and wanted to "trade away or betray" the truth?
    Why do you keep trying to imply that the commands of God are the commands of men?
     
  2. thedope

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    Well, you accuse me of running quotes together out of context. It appears that way, because my familiarity with the teaching allows to apply the words in demonstration of emerging circumstance, life. I always look where I step. That I refer for accuracy of a "quote", is proof that I do not distance myself from the bible.
    I am telling you that God speaks to us in all things, with every voice.
    It is why he corrected misconceptions about God's will. i.e., not eye for eye but love your enemies.
    The commandment is that we do the will of the father.
    What is the fathers will waterbrother?
     
  3. OlderWaterBrother

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    God's will for the Earth is that mankind should live forever on a paradise Earth.

    For mankind, this means everlasting life their taking in knowledge of you the only true God and of the one who you sent forth Jesus Christ.

    God's will for us is to love him with all our hearts and be imitators of him and his son Jesus.

    God’s will is also that all sorts of men should be saved and come to an accurate knowledge of truth. Jesus Christ and the early Christians worked whole-souled to bring this accurate knowledge to others and so that is also God's will for us.

    God's will is also that
    in all the nations the good news has to be preached and we should be engaged in that work.

    And these are but a few of the things considered to be God's will but if you do these with your whole soul God will not be displeased with you.
     
  4. thedope

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    Waterbrother, a fathers will is this:

    That you be generous with your gratitude. Happy, fulfilled, eternally so.
    Your will and God's will are the same will.
     
  5. OlderWaterBrother

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    Even Satan quoted the Bible, so that, in of itself, does not prove ones reliance in the Bible.

    What I look to is whether what you quote is used in harmony with what the rest of the Bible says and what you say about the Bible itself. What you have said about the Bible shows that you do not trust the Bible to guide your life.
    Yes, God's creation does "speak" to us and can tell us many things about God but there are many things that it can't tell us and that is why God gave us the Bible.
    They are not corrected misconceptions, Jesus himself knew that the purpose of his sacrifice was to fill the law of eye for an eye, a life for a life, but he also showed us a better way, that we should not require the justice of eye for eye but let love cover sins against us.
    I've already answered this.
     
  6. OlderWaterBrother

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    So you say but there are many things that make people "Happy" which are not part of God's will for us and I can also tell you that a person's will is not always God's will.
     
  7. thedope

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    But my testimony does unless you would find me guilty.

    What you look at is whether what I say corresponds to what you believe is the proper way to regard the bible. You are seeking compliance as opposed to comprehension, which is why you insist on assaulting the sonship, saul.
    If it is so that God gives everything we need, then why the but? What do you seek to protect other than your belief?
     
  8. thedope

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    Things don't make people happy, that is what the conflict is about. You cannot purchase happiness by "gaining" substance. I can tell you people do not know the difference between pain and pleasure and they do not know what happiness is or they would not be in pursuit.
     
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    Forgive them, they know not what they do.
     
  10. OlderWaterBrother

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    Your testimony is that the Bible is a historical narrative filled with the traditions of men and that is suppose to show your reliance on the Bible?
    All I look at is whether what you say contradicts the Bible and more often than not, it does.

    Compliance? Yes, Compliance to what God says through his word the Bible.

    Assaulting the sonship? What are you talking about now?
    Yes, God can give us everything we need but I wasn't talking about that and thus there is no "but" to explain.

    Seek to protect? Where do you come up with this stuff?
     
  11. OlderWaterBrother

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    Things don't make people happy? Okay, what makes someone happy?
     
  12. thedope

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    Giving all of oneself.
     
  13. thedope

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    You call me a liar. God did not create liars, you are slandering a child of God.


    To make an exception, "but", is to remove it from the influence of the whole information, to give it special appreciation, to protect it.
     
  14. OlderWaterBrother

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    Oops, that's a thing, care to try again?
     
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    You offered a but as well as an explanation.
     
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    Oops, that is an agreement. Learn something. I desire mercy not sacrifice.
     
  17. thedope

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    And an agreement becomes a "thing" when you write it down. Apart from writing it down it is a state of being.
     
  18. OlderWaterBrother

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    First, when did I ever call you a liar?

    And yes, God did not create liars but yet the God did create the creature that became Satan, who is a liar and the truth is not in him and calling him a liar is not slandering a child of God but simply telling the truth.
    Debating about words again, are you?

    My statement was about how far the observation of God's creation can get you in understanding God and his will or purposes and the need for the Bible for one to have the all the understanding that you need. I was not making an exception but was merely indicating that more was needed than just the observation of God's creation, mainly because it was not created to give us full understanding of God and that is why God gave us the Bible so we could have all the information we needed that the the observation of God's creation would not provide.
     
  19. OlderWaterBrother

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    You said things don't make one happy and I asked then does make one happy and you named a thing. So do things make one happy or not? ;)
     
  20. OlderWaterBrother

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    Things are things, whether you write them down or not. :D
     

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