Bible Questions? III

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  1. OlderWaterBrother

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    Again you Judge me as denying the Christ and I do not deny any one the Holy Spirit. It is you that deny yourself the Holy Spirit by listening to a "spirit" that continues to make you disagree with God.
     
  2. OlderWaterBrother

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    Yes it is and no it isn't
     
  3. thedope

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    Quite frankly, you are the only one here disagreeing with me. Good does not find me in error.
     
  4. TipsyGypsy

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    What does the Bible mean by these verses, because it sounds like God is in favour of Capital Punishment?

    ...... life for life, eye for eye, tooth for tooth ...
    Exodus 21:23-24

    A man who spills human blood, his own blood shall be spilled by man because God made man in His own Image.
    Genesis 9:6
     
  5. OlderWaterBrother

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    No, there are others who have disagreed with you, it's just I'm more persistent in pointing out your errors.

    As for "Good", I assume you mean God, not finding you in error, the True God does find you in error, it's just that you want to prove yourself right, so don't listen to him.
     
  6. OlderWaterBrother

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    God is in favor of capital punishment.
     
  7. TipsyGypsy

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    Ok. Won't ask again. :rolleyes:
     
  8. OlderWaterBrother

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    You can ask as many times as you wish but the simple truth is God is in favor of capital punishment.
     
  9. thedope

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    You haven't pointed out any errors, God is my judge. what you are is dogged by your beliefs.

    I have heard the voice of Holy Spirit, informing the way I live my life, and you know it just doesn't sound like you accusing me. Your voice is not that of whole spirit, your voice is of divided spirit. Your voice is of conflicted spirit, the haves and the have nots, with you, as the voice of one particular little sect of haves who decide what the have nots can have. This has nothing whatsoever to do with forgiveness, which is the single redeeming feature that man has. Your theology is built to preserve the status quo of belief, "these things are done to fulfill the scripture"
    As far as proving myself right, that is not why I am here. I am here for those who suffer, who long for God's peace. Christ proves man redeemable.
     
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    In the bible, Gods favors the narrator whoever that may be. In other words, the conqueror gets to decide what God condones or not. It is recorded that Jesus dealt with this verse by saying you have heard it said, an eye for an eye, but I say love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you.

    This does not denote favoring capital punishment It is simply a statement of cause and effect. Like calls to like. One of the things we get confused about is these sayings are not about supernatural things, but about the plain and practical things in life.
     
  11. TipsyGypsy

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    Thank you.
     
  12. OlderWaterBrother

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    I have pointed out many times where you disagree with the Bible, in fact to the point where you now are distancing yourself from the Bible.

    Yes, God is your judge.

    No, I'm not dogged by my beliefs.
    I know you have "heard" a voice, the question is whose voice that is. Since it ofttimes disagrees with the Bible, it would seem that it is not the Holy Spirit talking to you.
    The "voice" of the Holy Spirit is not divided. As for my voice, I have never said my voice is the "voice" of the Holy Spirit, the Holy Spirit has it's own "voice". I have always said, unlike you, that everything I say should be checked against God's word the Bible to see if it is so.

    As for my voice being divided, perhaps so, seeing as I am neither perfect or infallible but what I say does, afar as I am able, agree with the Bible and does not vary much or is not, as you say, divided.

    And for the "sect of haves" you speak of, the only thing they have decided is to follow what God says for us to do in his word the Bible.
    This has everything to do with forgiveness, the problem is that you are trying to make forgiveness something it is not.
    My "theology", if you wish to call it that, is built to obey God and understand what he desires of us and not to just do what ever we might feel is "right" in our own eyes.
    So what about obedience to God and what he wants? What about putting love of God first in our lives?
     
  13. OlderWaterBrother

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    Really? :rolleyes:
     
  14. thedope

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    Yes, what about it. What is first to you, love of God, or love of the belief that a book is not open to interpretation?
     
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    As with any historical narrative.
     
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    Excuse me while I kiss the sky!!

    I do not distance myself from the bible, I am rolling in it. I do not "look up" scripture, I remember the teaching of Christ, do the will of the father.
    I am telling you that the bible is a book. In that book is recorded the oral tradition of that teaching.
    Having said that understand. The word tradition, at it's root, means to trade away or betray.
    We are free to accept or deny our inheritance. We are not free to decide what that inheritance is because we did not create the world. We cannot in fact ransom ourselves by codifying behavior.
     
  17. thedope

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    What is the will of God waterbrother?
     
  18. OlderWaterBrother

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    Could help but notice you didn't answer the question but as for me, of course, love of God comes first but I also love the book that he has given us.
     
  19. OlderWaterBrother

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    Although the Bible does give historical accounts, it is not a historical narrative.
     
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    1. what has happened: the past events of a period in time or in the life or development of a people, an institution, or a place
    6. historical play: a play that deals with historical events
    [15th century. Via Latin < Greek historia "history, knowledge, narrative" < histōr "learned man"]
     

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