between the buried and me

Discussion in 'Heavy Metal' started by raz5, Feb 23, 2010.

  1. Reverand JC

    Reverand JC Willy Fuckin' Wonka

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    See I explained what I didn't like about them.
    Peace Out,
    Rev J
     
  2. Duck

    Duck quack. Lifetime Supporter

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    The main reason I don't like it is that there is no sense of composition.
    You can have a raw emotional feel and still have melodic quality (I cite Bad Brains as an example).
    However, this is just a bunch of angry noise.

    A band like Slayer can get away with poor melodies (at times) by setting up a a consummate feel to the song anyways, by setting a certain mood. There's no mood to these songs but angry - and the body of the songs all sound the exact same in tone.

    Also, the death growl is not well done. I'm not a big death metal fan, but I have some, and get recommended a lot, and I've never had quite this much trouble trying to understand the lyrics of a big name band.
    I mean, if he sounded cool while doing it, it might be excusable, but he doesn't.
     
  3. raz5

    raz5 زینب

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    ohk, i understand if you don't dig the vocals (i personally think he sounds great) but how isn't there a sense of composition? how much did you listen to? because there is a large amount of melodic quality and equal sections of feelings.
     
  4. neodude1212

    neodude1212 Senior Member

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    I'm sorry but that is just factually incorrect.
     
  5. neodude1212

    neodude1212 Senior Member

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    I think most people don't listen long enough to be able to piece together all the parts of a track and understand the song in it's entirety, which is why they come away basically only describing sections. They rarely start out soft, I think most people never make it to the soft sections lol, or never really experience the dynamic between "loud" and "soft" that they generally compose, but since BTBAM's songs tend to be so long I guess you can't really blame them.
    I know I wouldn't listen to 11 minutes of something I didn't like.
     
  6. aydinerro

    aydinerro Member

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    All I'm saying is Selkies? Come on...tell me that isn't the greatest creation ever.
     
  7. DroneLore

    DroneLore h8rs gon h8, I stay based

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    i can think of a lot of creations that are better.
     
  8. neodude1212

    neodude1212 Senior Member

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    I wouldn't go with greatest creation ever but it's a pretty damn good song
     
  9. Enjoy

    Enjoy Senior Member

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    BTBM is hagus
     
  10. Reverand JC

    Reverand JC Willy Fuckin' Wonka

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    Here's a not so well kept record industry secret. If anything gets sent to a record company the guy who's job it it so listen only listens to the first 30 seconds to minute. Part of the reason is that he has 15 or more disks on his desk that he has to listen to and decide wether he likes or not plus fill paperwork on if he does like. Second if you are listening to the radio if you don't like that first 30 seconds to minute you are likely to change the station. So I'll admit that sometimes I listen to music like that too. Or more likely I'll listen until something turns me off to it.

    Peace Out,
    Rev J
     
  11. jmt

    jmt Ezekiel 25:17

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    damn i will rep this when i can but this is where i stand too.....am not saying they suck as in talent! the guitarist is obvious a great player the music just sucks for me......and its not just the guitar player who talented the drummer and bassist too!
     
  12. jmt

    jmt Ezekiel 25:17

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    I will be the first here on the metal thread to say this but i have excellent taste in metal......and i usually like a band either after the very first time or maybe after the fourth, fifth time and i already gaven this band a couple of listens so......:(
     
  13. Duck

    Duck quack. Lifetime Supporter

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    I listened to most of the first song, all of the third one, and skimmed the second.
    Just because they have harder and softer parts doesn't mean they have a good sense of composition. Often times it sounds like the guitar, drums, and
    vocals are all doing their own separate things - all angry, sure - but that's the only common bond I can find at parts.
    And as far as the harder/softer, it's done so crudely. It's just hard part, soft part, with no real transition. No flow from one to the other.
     
  14. neodude1212

    neodude1212 Senior Member

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    While the credentials of a self-proclaimed compliment certainly are prestigious, your tastes are only that.....your tastes.

    The hard/soft dynamic isn't why I think they have good composition. I enjoy the composition of their music within sole sections, as well as entire tracks. I was just offering that as an explanation as to why so many people listen to about 5 seconds of a song, hear electric guitar and hard vocals, and go "oops no composition".

    As far as their transitions go - it's actually one of the main reasons I like them. I enjoy how the flow changes up in their songs so drastically and without warning, it catches you off guard and it makes the music unpredictable, but then again I've done a lot of acid so maybe that's where my enjoyment of jarring juxtapositions stems from.
     
  15. Duck

    Duck quack. Lifetime Supporter

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    I was a big fan of MSI back in the day, and one of the things I loved about them was their sudden jumps from high to low or softer and harder, but it always felt congruent still.
    I guess in Between the Buried and Me's case I find the splits too extreme or something... Anyways, to me, they feel very jarring like get rear-ended while driving. Sometimes, I like my music alienating me - but it has to make sense - and I don't see why Between the Buried In Me has these softer parts - or maybe it's just because I don't really dig any of it, so I have no grounds to respect their uh.. sudden shifts.
    Oh, and I'm more of amrijuana/shrooms man myself =P
     
  16. jmt

    jmt Ezekiel 25:17

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    what? you know like two metal bands.....and i know a shit loads more that compose good music......and not something trendy which BTBAM are......
     
  17. raz5

    raz5 زینب

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    btbam isn't trendy :confused:

    and i believe you posted once a list of metal bands you like, and the majority of them were actual talentless "musicians" :rolleyes:
     
  18. Duck

    Duck quack. Lifetime Supporter

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    Definitely are.
     
  19. raz5

    raz5 زینب

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    they got trendy around alaska, and i parted ways, then it seemed like it disbanded. i guess you're right, they are trendy, and it sucks. it sucks.
     
  20. Duck

    Duck quack. Lifetime Supporter

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    I've been hearing about them for a little while now, but yeah, I guess more recently is when they really got trendy. Now I see them at venues where all the screamo and "indie" bands play.
     

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