bernie sanders

Discussion in 'Random Thoughts' started by StellarCoon, Feb 26, 2019.

  1. unfocusedanakin

    unfocusedanakin The Archaic Revival Lifetime Supporter

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    Of course it's not free. We tax the rich so much and don't work duh

    why would I work if there is some rich man? I mean clearly he's a good worker. I'm not rich he is, so I will take it.
     
  2. Asmodean

    Asmodean Slo motion rider

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    That pic could just as well be from the hand of a capitalist being funny. Either way it is humor. No one wants cheap or free chicken. But if we would try to make it a serious message: Well, if anyone would be arguing for cheap unsustainable chicken being worthy of having a segment on the market it would be capitalists me thinks
     
  3. 6-eyed shaman

    6-eyed shaman Sock-eye salmon

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    Then why must you and others continue to propagate that it is free?

    Cartoon capitalism: A fat man in a fancy suit smoking a cigar, hoarding wealth while workers toil.

    Real life capitalism: An entrepreneur working 18+ hour days, risking his/her own money to provide goods/services others want, while investing profits back into their business.
     
  4. unfocusedanakin

    unfocusedanakin The Archaic Revival Lifetime Supporter

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    It's a joke to people who support social democracy since people like you don't understand what it is. We just embrace the stereotype because we know it's not real. Most people who look at the meme will know it's not true. If they bother to educate themselves on the topic at least.
     
  5. Asmodean

    Asmodean Slo motion rider

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    You know very well this is not the whole pic of capitalism in reality. The cartoon example actually has a lot of merit too. Same with a lot of criticism on socialism/socialist democracy, but the 'free chicken' example is not part of that. Neither are most of your attempts to make it look utterly unreasonable.
     
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  6. 6-eyed shaman

    6-eyed shaman Sock-eye salmon

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    Wearing fancy suits and living the high life is part of the rewards in the Risk/Reward system of entrepreneurship
     
  7. StellarCoon

    StellarCoon Dr. Professor

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    with a slogan like that how can you lose?
     
  8. Asmodean

    Asmodean Slo motion rider

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    That's not the point at all... Your example of real life capitalism portrays one aspect. The cartoon example portrays another aspect, even though its caricaturized. You seem to act like your example paints an objective picture of capitalism, while its only one aspect. Nobody is denying that aspect of capitalism or at odds with the capitalist entrepreneurs in your real life example by definition.
    Nobody with a brain wants free chicken in seriousness. Even though certain socialists are arguing for a free basic income for everyone, they're not for free shitty fast food. But certain capitalist entrepreneurs love trading in cheap and nasty chicken. Valid business, nothing more.. right?
     
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  9. Asmodean

    Asmodean Slo motion rider

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    Its fair to point out that you're righteously ridiculed and put away at times as a shit stirrer instead of a meaningful convo partner because of remarks like this:
     
  10. 6-eyed shaman

    6-eyed shaman Sock-eye salmon

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    If I had a dollar for every college leftist I've heard say that public services and goods were "free," I'd be a high roller.

    Then why do socialists keep perpetuating that "profit" is like a curse word?

    But they are for breadlines.
     
  11. Asmodean

    Asmodean Slo motion rider

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    You got nothing better? You give up or something? Unfortunate.

    You're merely proving my point:
     
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  12. unfocusedanakin

    unfocusedanakin The Archaic Revival Lifetime Supporter

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    First college is not a bad thing.

    Second, they are "free" in a way. You pay tax and don't pay at the time of service. Of course it's not really free.I don't think anyone would argue they are not funded with tax dollars. People who don't like socialism gravitate more to the free argument.
     
  13. Aww stahp :blush:
     
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  14. MeAgain

    MeAgain Dazed & Confused Lifetime Supporter Super Moderator

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    Free chicken or a "chicken in every pot. And a car in every backyard, to boot." was first used by the Republican party in 1928.

    [​IMG]
     
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  15. 6-eyed shaman

    6-eyed shaman Sock-eye salmon

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    I'm not sure what you're trying to argue here. It's just an empty campaign phrase like "Hope and Change" "Make America Great Again"
     
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  16. 6-eyed shaman

    6-eyed shaman Sock-eye salmon

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    Ah, I get it now. It's a bait-&-switch kind of "free."
     
  17. MeAgain

    MeAgain Dazed & Confused Lifetime Supporter Super Moderator

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    I am pointing out that you associated the phrase "a free chicken" with socialist when in fact it was a republican slogan. Are you implying that republicans are socialists?
     
  18. Asmodean

    Asmodean Slo motion rider

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    Lol. It's rather obvious he's pointing out the irony. Are you playing stupid? I hope so (for your sake, not ours)
     
  19. I'minmyunderwear

    I'minmyunderwear Newbie

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    i wouldn't eat it as a main course or anything, but i think it's a decent side for a fried chicken dinner. back when their combos came with two sides, i always got mashed potatoes and mac and cheese. then they dropped the second side and kept the price the same, so i just get potatoes now.
     
  20. themnax

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    bernie's mostly cool. his record isn't purfect, but no one survives in politics having one.
    i'm not holding my breath for lightning to strike twice in the same place.
    wasserman-shultze was determined to see a woman nominated no matter what.
    i believe that's how we ended up with hillary instead.
    hillary would have been ok too, certainly way better then trump, but i really wish she wouldn't run or get the nomination again either,
    because she's way too soft oft on business, and not nearly strong enough on environment.
    we need someone who can grab all the air the way trump did, but by being as outrageously pro environmental issues, as he is against them.
    pro all the other liberal stuff too, like bernie, or the position he's taken, is.
    the best of all world would be for a very strong woman, like kamila or one of the others to do this.
    maybe a waren-biden ticket. although i don't think warren, because her whole thing is economics, and she hasn't shown the depth on other issues,
    its not inconceivable though that she might. i'll join the chorous of its a hell of a shame cortez is too young.
    bernie would be good. bernie would be very good. if it happens, that would be wonderful, i'm just not betting my life savers on lightning striking twice in the same place.
     
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