Being A Libertarian

Trump is a piece of shit who is the ultimate police state president. Totally in league with the agenda the people at the top want.

 

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What do you mean by ‘price control’ in left wing libertarianism (as I describe above) there would be on ‘prices’ and no means of control.


I think you really need to explain what you think left wing libertarian is and how you think it would function?

 

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The problem here is that you don’t explain what your views are so it is hard to say – I’ve covered all these issues at length in many thread, I’ll try and give you a very simple and very basic overview of my views here –

Abortion

To me most abortions are sad tragedies but they seem to be needed - my questions is why they are still needed and what could be done to lower the numbers? Having looked at it I think what is needed is education, especially sex education, the promotion of women’s rights, universal publically funded healthcare provision and access to subsidised or free childcare oh and to start with proper and paid maternity leave.

Alternative energy

I’m very much into renewables and what would help in that area is subsidies to many of the industries to nurture them (while regulating to increase the cost of non-renewables) and publically funded research and development.

(Oh and like so say here since it is linked what about the environment what are your views on that and you are no record as denying global climate change is happening is that still the case?)

GMO foods

I’m against corporations getting control of such things and would regulate against it and an increase in publically funded research, development and monitoring

A non-aggressive foreign policy

Well yes, but you will need to explain what you mean by that, would Britain declaring war on Hitler’s Germany have been an example of an aggressive foreign policy?

Reducing military spending

I agree but to what end is it to spend more money on healthcare, education and welfare etc or to give tax cuts?

An abolition of state sponsored religion

I’m an atheist, my own view is that anyone getting any public support in education would have to teach comparative religion and rational based science. And I’d also stop religious groups from being able to be tax exempted.

Giving reparations to the black community by giving them better schools

Not sure what you mean - in my view EVERYONE should have the best education that can possibly be given (along with healthcare, welfare etc).

Abolishing central banking

Often this was brought in because the little regulated market system that went before it was far worse. I’m all for new ideas so what would you replace central banking with?

Legalizing recreational drugs

To me just legalising drugs would likely make a bad situation worse to me it would be decriminalisation of some drugs that then would be regulated and monitored (in a similar way to alcohol). With drug addiction being seen as a healthcare issue not a criminal one and with healthcare resources been targeted in an effort to reduce harm.

I’ve already given my views on this above did you not read it?

Left Wing Libertarianism

To me left wing libertarianism reminds me of the Marxist view of anarchy that would evolve from communism, the withering away of government because humans had learnt not to need it, a place where the distributive and protective roles of government are no longer needed because people will choose to be equal, helpful and peaceful.

As such I see it as worthy but utopian and would only be possible if humans developed into a better species than they are.

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[SIZE=11pt]I’ve described myself in the past as - a pragmatic socialists with strong Keynesian and green leanings - but know that doesn’t cover everything.[/SIZE]

 

My idea of total left wing libertarianism is similar to the way you described it. And I agree that it would be hard to enforce regulations that many leftists favor without a governing bureaucracy. I believe you can be a left wing libertarian in ideology, but much of that would require governmental authority to enforce the goals of a regulated society. Price floors and ceilings are an example of regulation that would need to exist in order for it to be a left wing libertarian society. The said society would also have to adhere to the non-aggression principle as well.

Abortion: I too believe it is a tragedy. I believe that for some people who don't have the ways and means of raising a baby, they should be allowed the option. However I am very against sex-selective abortions; where some families will get abortion because the ultrasound showed that the fetus was not the parent's preferred gender. I'm personally against late term abortions as well.

Alternative Energy: I believe more research should be invested into alternative energy and find a way to phase out excessive pollutants. I don't believe the government should implement them ahead of schedule before they've been developed enough to give the taxpayers and investors a good return on their investments. Otherwise we could have blown so much money and resources on inefficient technologies. My personal favorite form of alternative energy is geothermal. If you dig deep enough you can harness the heat from beneath the Earth's crust and have infinite energy. In certain parts of the world, you don't have to drill as deep. I'd be OK with government funded work projects to acquire more geothermal energy. Then there's also Nikola Tesla's method of extracting electricity from the ionosphere that I think we could go back to.

GMO foods: I have a hard time finding conservatives who are anti-GMO foods. I campaigned alongside liberals in my state to try to pass a mandatory GMO food label. But the bill unfortunately failed. I think we all have a right to know every ingredient in the food we buy. What many people don't seem to realize is that there is a HUGE difference between breeding food sources (plants and animals) with preferred genetics to maximize production, and playing God by altering the DNA of these sources at the molecular level. For example, rather than breeding a pesticide tolerant crop of tomatoes, companies like Dow and Monsanto will splice traces of scorpion venom into the crops to make it more pesticide resistant. Hence, pollinators like bees are getting killed off by the same poison put into these GMO crops. Monsanto is a horrible company who genetically engineer plants to produce sterile seeds, forcing farmers to buy new seeds from the company year after year. Even worse is that they'll sue farmers who's crops got pollinated with Monsanto's patented genetics.

Non-aggressive foreign policy: I don't believe it's any place in the world for a global superpower to be the policeman of the world. The UK going after Nazi Germany was a little different because they were destined to be next on Hitler's list. One could argue that they did it out of defense after seeing their neighboring countries perish. It seems that whenever the US gets involved in a foreign war to pick sides, it rarely turns out to be a humanitarian mission as they advertise.

Reduce military spending: So we both agree on this. But what are you asking exactly when you say "to what end to spend more money on healthcare, education, welfare and tax cuts?" If I'm reading this right, I think giving everybody a huge tax cut will help the economy in a lot of ways. The rest of it can be used for public spending in other facets of society.

Abolishing state sponsored religion: Sounds like we both agree on this one too. However the liberals in Canada passed an anti-Islamophobia law that prohibits all criticism of Islam. How do you feel about that?

Giving reparations to the black community by providing better schools: I'm sure you're aware that inner city public schools in the states (and probably your country too) of predominantly black areas are among the worst funded and keep turning out students with failing test scores, and high drop out rates. I think a good ticket out of poverty for many of these people would be a well funded and up to date school system in these areas that encourage growth and fulfillment. This would be a good reparation for Bill Clinton's crime bill that put many black men in jail for victimless crimes and left many black children in fatherless upbringings. A well funded school with successful education model will help black students improve their test scores to be ready for college and post education jobs. The problem with affirmative action is that it just grants certain students a special scholarship despite a crappy SAT score, where they go onto college where many of them wind up flunking out because they were not properly ready for it. Properly funded and up to date schools will make the argument for affirmative action obsolete in due time.

Abolish central banking: To answer your question, I'd abolish it and replace it with a gold-based monetary system, rather than an institution that prints money from thin air. (Then again I think most liberals and conservatives will disagree with me on this one)

Legalizing recreational drugs: My state legalized recreational marijuana 2 years ago, and I've seen nothing but positive change. I don't think prohibition is a good thing, but yes, proper information and public service needs to be put in place.

 

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Who are you agreeing with, because I didn’t say anything close to your comment, this statement doesn’t make any sense. I mean what regulations are you talking about that you think the left favour? As to governing bureaucracy are you saying that you would get rid of government?

What the hell are you going on about?

Again what the fuck are you talking about – can you please explain?

Sorry 6 but this reply doesn’t even come close to answering my question.

 

It's Republicans who want to smoke weed and don't like the idea they are like their dad nothing more so they make a new label. No kids want to turn into their parents.

Both essentially see society as dog eat dog thus no point for sympathy or welfare. Both see the free market as god. Make that money. Both are very concerned with the victimization of white straight men at the expense of society. Not being too PC I guess you could say since PC is a regulation and we don't need those.

I've really tried to see the nuances. Sorry it's Republicanism for college kids.

 

That's what happens. The vast majority of people in comment sections are so brainwashed into siding with Democrats or Republicans that if you poke some holes into those so called "ideologies" they immediately assume your on the other "side"

CNN and Fox News are both nauseating !!!