Because science knows EVERYTHING..

they can neither disprove or prove the existence of g-d. So in my eyes whether someone believes there is no god, and someone who believes in one or more gods, makes no difference to me. Personally I believe more in spirits, than gods, but even that can not be scientifically proven, and that is ok with me. I would rather believe in something does exist and be proven wrong later than to live without any faith in spirituality. (though in my eyes, I do believe it to be true even though it isnt proven science wise)

 

You already have.

 

The way I see it thousands of years ago they didn't have the scientific knowledge that Earth evolved from the big bang they deided on God or Gods depending on what part of the earht they were from and that stuck

Now we do (and WE DO) have the scientific evidence that "God" didn't create the earth and man evolved from amoeba, fish, monkey etc disprooving that god made man, so if god dind't create man does god actually exist ???

 

yeah there certainly could be a whole other realm of things we aren't aware of, but you should be able to answer that question yourself. we like to think we know everything when we can't.

 

Who's God? Never met him

Oh, wait?

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aY1APSk0SS0"]YouTube- Crazy world of arthur brown - fire

 

Man... science is just a modern name for magic and supernatural. Sure we can explain how 1 person can talk to another person over long distances trough a phone line or transport an atom from one point of space to another, so we know how it happens but the fact that it happens atoll is amazing magical if u will.


Now think if we could magically/scientifically transport a man from say 1000 years ago in to our time. Experiments would seem like magic spells and scientific books like bibles and so on...


So the idea of god in the olden days is just complex personalization of the point of creation. When man has incomplete information of a phenomena imagination kicks in and tries to guess and fill in the gaps. So god does exist it just haves a new name the big bang.

Or could we or other species now or in the future produce such a powerful machine(AI) that would be able to contain all the data about the universe with in it self. And have swarms of nano bots that could rearrange physical matter, come to think about it nano bots can be programed to do just about anything that to a normal human would seem like magic.

It would be like an reincarnation of god would we call this AI god even though it did not create the universe rather haves the means to understand, rearranged and maintain it as AI sees fit?

 

Who says it didnt create the Universe?


We dont know that.


It very well could have..

 

Well then....

In short, if there's no proof against christianity, but no reason at all to follow it, especially over any other religion, so the "well u haz no prooof hez nawt there" argument doesn't work, it is YOU that needs the proof, before bashing others for not sharing your imaginary friends.

Why don't you get to proving I didn't create the universe in a cosmic wank session?

Jus sayin.

 

Who says you didnt?



I'm not trying to prove anything.

You can have your ideas.

I'll have mine.

 

Saying God exists is ignorant, you have no proof.

Saying God does not exist is ignorant, you have no proof.

Saying that Santa Claus does not exist is ignorant, you have no proof.

Saying that the Flying Spaghetti Monster exists is ignorant, you have no proof.

Seeing a trend?

 

So were all ignorant in a sense then

 

yep.


Surrender yourself to utter confusion.

 

Funny u ask that Drew I was just thinking about it.


So think back before the big bang before the singularity think absolute nothingness. But one day something happened some force triggered a period of events that lead to formation of singularity then big bang and now this post. So what could be this trigger I mean within absolute nothingness nothing can happen right? Well I would thing some outside force have to get involved u know the so called god from other time line or parallel universe.


So going back to the absolute nothingness state I think there was some thing there a shadow of a reality what am talking about is the many world theory from quantum physics. What it says is that that every possibility is realized with a new branch of reality or parallel universe. Basically if I get run over by a car tomorrow in this universe there is a universe where it wont happen atoll other than that its all identical...


So even before the singularity or anything was formed the possibility's were always there, there for parallel universes had always exited. In one of those universes this AI was realized in to reality. Because this AI has the knowledge of a god it understood that it exited only in one possible branch of reality so it found or created this very weird worm hole that breached the gap of time and parallel universes to trigger the very star of existence. Or some BS like that.

 

or time doesnt exist as we think of it.

 

Athiests, agnostics and true scientists do not claim to know EVERYTHING. It is only theists who claim to have the answer.

Trues ignorance lies in the outrageous level of disillusionment in the minds of believers and the crazy loops of denial they twist through to justify their biblical beliefs. Like how young earth ignoramuses refuse to accept simple proven facts like continental drift. Did the Atlantic ocean split Pangaea in 10 thousand years or did it take hundreds of millions of years? Those who can manage any amount of intellectual reasoning beyond religous programming know the right answer without even relying on any amount of FAITH to accept it.

We may all be ignorant but there are certainly huge variances on the level of ignorance from one faction to the next. Only a thoughtless tool unable to process logic would see these ignorance's to be in balance from faith to fact.

 

You are claiming to know everything right now..


Thank you for making my point..

 

Your point is an utter failure.

He stated facts, he didn't claim to know everything. You're basically saying TEH OMGZ U DNT KNOW EVRYTHING whenever someone makes a valid point because they... know more than you.

Theists claimed atheists claimed to know everything. (although in a sense, atheism is the same as theism, it involves a belief, which involves having your head up your ass and accepting something for no more reason than you feel like it)

Science can not disprove religion, by the very nature of religion. But religion is trying to fight science on religions level, which shows religions lack of understanding of science. By the same token, science does not NEED to disprove religion, though the most basic scientific ideas show that no religion has any more valididity than any other.

 

Yes, this is my point.


And spitting out a bunch of facts IS claiming to know everything.

 

So long as they are actual facts, there's nothing wrong with spitting all the facts you can find.

The fact that science doesn't claim to know everything, but endeavors to learn or deduce everything, is inharently better than the church, which actully DOES claim to have all the answers, in a conveniant book too. When people say "I don't beleive in science" I stop talking to them and walk away. Science is REASON, religion is "well we said so.... isn't that good enough for you?" Science does not depend on belief.