Bash the Fash

We're not talking about a racist uncle and his buddies.

We're talking about a political movement actively organizing and recruiting for genocide.

And these people have already unleashed brutal violence on communities they deem "inferior".

Including Black and Jewish communities. So it turns out that you actually do face "immediate physical threat" when these folks are around.

 

You can't compare someone beholding to an idealogy to someone physically threatening my life and safety.

 

That's a stretch, to say the least. Is Nazism wrong? Absolutely! If I wonder into KKK rally by mistake, is my well being at risk? Sure. Is it enough to punch soneone who hasn't been violent? No.

Let's take the proposal that punching nazis, whether or not they were violent, is ok to its logical conclusion. If it's OK to punch who you deem nazis, is it then alright for you to shoot Nazis on site? Should police roam the streets and shoot whoever is wearing a KKK robe? Should the military fierbomb KKK communities and camps?

 

Anyone who is a fascist is disgusting in my books. They tend to be anti diversity behaved people.

 

Which part is a stretch? It's all happening right now. They don't just have clandestine rallies anymore. Now they're taking over cities, and getting the okay (and protection) from the state while they're at it.

Again, these aren't just random individuals. This is a political movement actively organizing and recruiting for genocide. And of that recruiting are lone wolf terrorists we've been seeing a rise of. You think in the past people differentiated between whether a fascist was a recruiter, a book keeper or a grunt? Not at all. If anything the former were greater targets. I'm certainly not in the camp to advocate for the police or military. Especially with their history with klan rallies and slave patrols.

 

I'm no longer using the word "Nazi."
From now on, I'm calling them by their long name: "National Socialist"
Because that is what they are.

 

Who?

 

It was a serious question, 6-eyed. Which people who are called nazis these days or call themselves (neo)nazi are better described as national socialists than nazis? Most of these people display discriminating or fascist behavior, which is obviously why they're called nazis. It seems though you really think you have a good point?

 

I'm a navy brat and grew up surrounded by fascists. Most of them are actually very nice people, extremely polite and productive members of society, who just happen to have no faith whatsoever in humanity, which is why they frequently apply their morality to others, but not themselves, and make excellent Wall Street traders, lawyers, and politicians as well as soldiers. Mormons make better bureaucrats, because they tend to be fascists with some vague sense of morality.

 

One that he repeats over and over again, even though people have so often pointed out the fallacy. It's called the "Big Lie"(große Lüge)--a favorite strategy of a certain well-known Austrian "National Socialist" leader in bygone decades. (see his Mein Kampf ,1925). Say it often enough and somebody will believe it. Adolf would be proud! As for the burning question Were the Nazis Socialists?, the following sums it up it well: Were the Nazis Socialists?
https://www.britannica.com/story/were-the-nazis-socialists

 

Are you trying to say the racist and fascist street movement is predominantly national socialist? Or are you saying the we should call the neo-Nazi demographic in said street movement national socialist?

To break it down a bit:

 

Mormons will unite Nazis everywhere under a banner of peace and brotherly love, and will borrow money from Jewish bankers to buy the entire US mass media.

 

Right wing collectivism is just as evil as left wing collectivism.

 

LOL, the Mafia can call themselves whatever they damned well please. They exist because the government is corrupt and, if it isn't already corrupt, they will work hard to corrupt it. Their average lifespan is five years if they are lucky, and Hitler lived to be an old man by their standards. Claudius was 32nd in line for the throne, when all his relatives poisoned each other, and he only lived for another ten years himself. Donald Duck is taking us down that dark road, while the white population is dying in record numbers. They are all burning the candle at both ends like they have always done and will argue definitions and semantics with anyone.

They are fighting our evil government, with low-low taxes and tough foreign policies. Film at 11:00.

This is a public reminder that it is your patriotic duty to vote for whichever candidate advertises the most.

 

Do you have any original thought? To think Nazi Germany was anti-capitalist would be like thinking state-communist Russia, China or Cuba is anti-capitalist. Not to mention that many of America's top corporations directly invested in Nazi Germany. And the main reason Franco’s fascist coup was successful was because of capitalist support.

 

They were anti-capitalist. The state controlled most of the industries. Which is why the genocide was successful as it was.

If the Hammer and Sickle doesn't disgust you as much as the national socialist Swastika, then the public education system has failed you.

 

If that's your definition of anti-capitalism, then sure. Yes, Mussolini famously stated that "Fascism should more appropriately be called Corporatism because it is a merger of state and corporate power". And as I stated, the Nazis had direct financial and military aid from global corporations, primarily American.

But to think that abolishing capitalism is to make yourself the best capitalist around is like those people claiming that the billionaire Elon Musk is an anti-capitalist.

And you went off the rails a bit in your last paragraph. My post literally included state-Communism in the same paragraph as Nazism. Although I certainly do know the difference between genocide and state-sanctioned murder. So you kind of lost me as to why you brought that up.

 

Anti-capitalist, my ass! Actually, Hitler privatized a lot of industries that had previously been state run--including a number of banks,railroads, and shipping lines. Hitler did this for Social Darwinist reasons, because he thought state bureaucratic management would work help the weak and inefficient and handicap the talented. C. Buchheim and Jonas Scherner (June 2006) , p. 409. http://piketty.pse.ens.fr/files/cap...storicalGermanAccounts/BuchheimScherner06.pdf ; G.Bel (2004) http://www.ub.edu/graap/nazi.pdf
The education system obviously failed you, since you cling to your misconceptions in the face of facts.

As for the swastika versus the hammer and sickle, they symbolize different forms of evil totalitarianism. Nazism, like Trumpism, appealed to the status insecurity of the petit bourgeosie and displaced veterans; Marxism-Leninism rallied the proletariat and peasantry (hence the hammer and sickle). Nazism was based on the notion of a master race and hierarchy; Marxism-Leninism preached an egalitarian ideology. Nazism was about genocide to Jews, gypsies, and homosexuals. Soviet Communism was about liquidating kulaks, cossacks, Crimean tartars, Mongols and other "class enemies" and "counterrevolutionary elements". Both were abhorrent. I actually consider Communism to be worse, because it had a higher body count and was more totalitarian (Hitler enabled the private captions of industry as long as they were compliant). It's important though to distinguish them, not blur their differences, as your posts are prone to do. If you can't tell the difference between the two, the education system has failed you.

 

That's not a failure of public education, but a natural reaction to society punishing the truth and rewarding comforting lies. In fact, blaming society's problems on a failure of education, critical thinking skills, brains, morality, or whatever is what makes the public, bankers, and politicians happy. Sadly, forty years of extensive studies concluded the republican party organizes like chickens, so please feel free to peck each other to death pointlessly, and blame the world falling apart on people being untrustworthy.

 

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