Ban all guns now!!!!

Discussion in 'Random Thoughts' started by Pressed_Rat, Jul 20, 2012.

  1. Irminsul

    Irminsul Valkyrie

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    Gun laws would prevent mass shootings?
    Please tell me more about how criminals follow laws.
     
  2. Cate8

    Cate8 Senior Member

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    It never ceases to amaze me, the obsession with guns.
     
  3. Rudenoodle

    Rudenoodle Minister of propaganda Lifetime Supporter

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    I'm not saying James Holmes is a CIA patsy.
     
  4. pensfan13

    pensfan13 Senior Member

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    damn

    kamayamayaaaaa!!!
     
  5. josh989

    josh989 Member

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    I'm so tired of idiots saying if more people had guns things would be safer, it doesnt work that way in the real world. Let's use the dark knight shooting as an example. He goes into a dark theatre, throws smoke grenades, and opens fire. Now imagine the panic everyone is in, and ontop of that, you have 3 or 4 citizens opening fire on this unseen shooter, in a smoke filled dark theatre. No one knows who started the shooting, but they see 5 people standing up firing a weapon. Who do they shoot? How many people will be hit in crossfire? Lots more people die. And then the cops show up, they storm in and have no clue who the bad guy is, but they see a bunch of guys holding weapons. It's just a recipe for disaster.
     
  6. NoxiousGas

    NoxiousGas Old Fart

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    how naive.

    Chances are more likely that had there been more lenient laws and folks carrying, it would have never happened.

    I have been in parts of the U.S. where it was legal to carry an unconcealed weapon. You think they had a lot of armed robberies? Most criminals want the odds in their favor and the possibility of confronting one or more armed citizens isn't the type of situation they want.

    One thing that I have heard/read on this subject time and again is that violent criminals when asked invariably say they would rather face an officer of the law than an armed civilian.The reason you ask?
    Law enforcement have "rules of engagement" that criminals can use to their advantage, civilians don't. While a cop has to be 100% certain before pulling the trigger, a civilian defending themselves can just blow the bad guys head off and answer questions later. Criminals are very aware of that reality.
    So criminals are very much in favor of tighter gun controls, it makes their job safer.
     
  7. eggsprog

    eggsprog anti gang marriage HipForums Supporter

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    why is it that canada has much lower rates of drug crime than the united states, but has much stricter gun control?
     
  8. I'minmyunderwear

    I'minmyunderwear Newbie

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    to be fair, plenty of cops just blow the guy's head off and make up answers to questions later too.
     
  9. Just_Dave

    Just_Dave Member

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    Speak it brother. Unfortunately...nobody is listening.
     
  10. Just_Dave

    Just_Dave Member

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    Could you clarify that before I reply? I fail to see how one has anything to do with the other. I should forewarn you that I am a political activist in support of legalization and have been written up in local papers supporting legalization. I also support the 2nd Amendment.
     
  11. Burnt

    Burnt Hip Forums Supporter HipForums Supporter

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    Are you serious, more people would have been killed in the cross fire from people shooting in the smoke screen, made by the killer in order to hide himself. To take a proper shot you must see your target clearly.
     
  12. LetLovinTakeHold

    LetLovinTakeHold Cuz it will if you let it

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    Maybe you would kill more people in the crossfire. But those who know how to handle their weapon could have easily made a positive impact.

    What do you suppose the shooter was hiding from in his "smoke screen?" A large group of guaranteed to be unarmed and unsuspecting citizens? The smoke hindered his vision as much as anyone. It was only fueling some psychotic fantasy, it wasn't protecting him from anything.
     
  13. Burnt

    Burnt Hip Forums Supporter HipForums Supporter

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    Honestly I do know what he was hiding, do you?
     
  14. NoxiousGas

    NoxiousGas Old Fart

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    ***sigh***

    I guess the ENTIRE fucking point of that post went sailing completely over your head. Maybe you just didn't hear me last time;

    AREAS WHERE CIVILIANS CAN CARRY FIREARMS IN PLAIN VIEW, NOT CONCEALED, HAVE MUCH, MUCH LOWER INCIDENTS OF ROBBERIES AND VIOLENT CRIMES.
    JUST THE THOUGHT OF FACING AN ARMED CIVILIAN IS A PRETTY STRONG DETERRENT.

    So, like I said in the previous post, that theater shooting most likely would NEVER have happened in a community with openly armed citizens.
    so the question of crossfire is mute.
     
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