Bad language - best to avoid it.

Discussion in 'Music' started by Zanman, Dec 15, 2004.

  1. Zanman

    Zanman Member

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    Miami my friend are you intentionally obtuse?

    I told you I am talking about what psychologists say about people who swear a lot.
    What are you worried about, being unpopular? Looks like it by the way you suck up to others ...


    Foul-mouthed persons are ostracized by general society and forced into minor social positions, and by extension into minor social groups and by further extension into low-income positions.

    This is not to say many people do not swear - they do ... I know several powerful business people who swear, but not because they lack language or IQ, but for emphasis. And they do not swear continually, but rarely, and they do not swear to impress others.

    Do you know nothing about psychology?
     
  2. HappyHaHaGirl

    HappyHaHaGirl *HipForums Princess*

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    We're hippies... we smoke pot and fuck each other..... what were you expecting? Dr. Phil?
     
  3. miami musician

    miami musician Senior Member

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    seriously dude, i know what i know, and that's all that i know. i don't come off as being an asshole (ooh, did i use language there, i'm sorry oh great one) because i think i know more than others. for one, if YOU had a brain, you would know this is the music forum, wrong place for this thread. secondly, i HATE it when people think they're better than others, so no, i am not "sucking up" to anyone, just being the lowly humble human being that i am.

    oh and by the way oh smart one, intelligence is all relative. you may know more about psychology or sociology than others here, but again, i state this is a music forum. you don't want to go there bro... but just because i personally feel i have more knowledge in music than other people, i don't go around boasting because of that. you sound like you need some time to reflect man, take life into perspective, and realize that you are totally not being "intelligent" right now.
     
  4. Mr MiGu

    Mr MiGu King of the Zombies

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    Id like to think Ive got a brain, though unfortunately have never studied psych or sociology.

    Since you are mentally superior to the rest of us on here, perhaps you could answer me something. I was just wondering if psychologists say the same things about those who swear as those who seem to enjoy continuously putting down others.
     
  5. Zanman

    Zanman Member

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    Miami I think you know something about music and I respect that and I am not being personal here ... I do not think I am morally superior to everyone else, but I am morally superior to some ... aren't you?

    I do not consider swearing a moral problem similar to say violence against another, but it is a silly thing to do in excess if you want to be successful in business for example.
    Swearing is also a sign that a person has low self control and is subject to aggressive impulse - not always but most of the time.

    It is simply better NOT to swear for psychological well-being and ALL the scientific evidence points to that. That is all I am saying.
     
  6. prism

    prism :o

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    .....oh yeah, they're my idols...[​IMG]


    Yeah, that may be true...if you're some kind of stalker.


    Yup, I know how that goes...especially when a know-it-all such as yourself has nothing better to do than to assume how I live my life when you don't even know me.


    And so do I, thus I wouldn't be talking if I were you.
     
  7. Zanman

    Zanman Member

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    Well Prism at the risk of over-posting what do you know about the study of psychology/sociology/psychiatry? Out with it girl!

    Since you have now warned me I shudder at the monstrous intellectual punishment about to descend upon me from your deep erudition?



     
  8. prism

    prism :o

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    Fine then. Within the past 2 years (so yes, I may be a novice) I've taken (and passed, mind you) several courses in social psych., human behavior, abnormal psych., & general psych. Next semester, I'll be taking child psych., abnormal psych. II, & advanced general psych.

     
  9. Zanman

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    Excellent ...

    You will be aware then of self-regulation as a conceptual area in psychology, the area I am referring to here, relating to modification of impulsive and aberrational behavior. The interesting thing about this study is that it continually advances due to culture change. Fascinating stuff really.

    And by the way you ARE persuaded by Brittney and the like because the advertisers are SO SMART they will actually sell you stuff based upon NOT Brittney! They know there is a small market who hates her image and market to your hatred!
    It is a smaller market but it is the market for rebels too, which is why the rebels all look alike LOL. Ever heard of Goth? Someone makes that clothing and makes a profit off of it.

    You can’t escape.

    All young people are continually exploited, manipulated and used throughout their lives, most of them never having even a clue as to what has really happened to them.


    Vallacher and Carver will be on your plate next year (not sure regarding the Brit syllabus though) ... good for you ... you are moving toward social psychology. Good luck.
     
  10. miami musician

    miami musician Senior Member

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    you frustrate me so much... and it's not because i'm dumb, it's because i'm human.
     
  11. Zanman

    Zanman Member

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    Just wondered about the non-dumb part ... that is an opinion right?
     
  12. miami musician

    miami musician Senior Member

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    well most things i say are opinions, especially when i'm dumbing myself down.
     
  13. prism

    prism :o

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    Well...I don't really hate her. I don't even bother to focus on whatever she does. And I don't believe the stuff that I buy (which is mostly 2nd-hand stuff anyway)is marketed to my "hatred" towards her.

    Well then, too bad for rebels.


    :eek: ...:(


    No, not all young people. It may surprise you, but some young people actually have the capability to think on their own terms. :eek: And some don't...so it sucks to be them.



    Eh.....thanks.
     
  14. miami musician

    miami musician Senior Member

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    you know what? we all need a little more paul hindemith in our lives...
     
  15. Zanman

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    Prism it is not a question of thought or people thinking. It is much deeper than that.

    Don't you notice that the people around you only ever talk about the LATEST ______ ? They only ever seem to talk either about themselves or about what they LIKE, as if anyone cares. Does anyone ever detract EXCEPT to villify the __________?

    You have all been manipulated into this. Orwell warned of this and so did Wells before him! (I urge you to read Orwell's 1984.)

    And so everyone agrees and everyone feels safe. You are made to feel safe, but not too safe. You are made to feel OK, but you still NEED something. You are made to feel less than a woman, or a woman who SMELLS like a woman God forbid! (No, women are told they stink so they need this or that product.) The marketers have destroyed you, and you don't even know it... It really has been beautifully done ... but remember the marketers have genius IQ's.

    The advertising budgets for major corps that sell to teens and twenties are huge, in the billions. But they cannot allow you to think!

    I am favorably imnpressed that you shop thrift stores ... that is fine, but look around your house and LOOK at all that junk you have you don't need and don't want!
    So how did a smart lady like yourself blow all that cash on all that junk?

    There is something going on that is subversive.
     
  16. miami musician

    miami musician Senior Member

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    worth is all subjective... what's worthless to you is worth so much more to someone else... it's like the whole saying "one man's junk is another man's treasure..."

    and what's wrong with "liking" something? you say...

    umm... people have had preferences since options were made available, which means since the medevial times... this is nothing new, this was way before orwell... and what if someone were to say, "oh, i like radiohead" and you're saying who cares? obviously anyone else that likes them would care...

    i dunno, it seems to me you keep bringing up irrelevant useless points, especially to the MUSIC FORUM.
     
  17. prism

    prism :o

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    Yes, I have noticed those people, but I don't bother to associate with them because they annoy me.

    Again, stop assuming that you know how I live my life. You don't know me, so quit thinking that I'm yielding into being yet another teenage pop-culture whore of commercialism with money to blow on pointless crap (or if I even have money at all).
     
  18. Zanman

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    Miami my friend sometimes the discussion changes pace or direction.

    I agree this is a music forum and I only wanted to discuss the Beatles. I didn't want to get into a major argument. I wanted to talk about John Lennon's lyrics for crying out loud!

    But I have seen a very sad degeneration in literacy among some young people here and felt I had to say what I think is right, and I have some knowledge in this area relating to the psychology of ambient aberrational behavior.

    You will see I have not even one supporter in this thread and 20 opponents, but it wouldn't matter if I had a thousand or a million opponents I would say the same as I am saying.

    It is my opinion and I have no desire to put anyone down. I am not trying to be a cop, or a know-it-all.

    But I do not think it is first, right to use bad language in a public forum and second, I wish to point out the psychological complications for the persons doing so.

    That is that.
     
  19. Zanman

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    Yes of course, you are quite right. I apologize.
     
  20. Jim

    Jim Senior Member

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    So, I'm guessing this thread has been left in an inappropriate forum for comedic purposes?
     
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