Backward Oklahoma

Discussion in 'Politics' started by monkjr, Apr 21, 2014.

  1. monkjr

    monkjr Senior Member

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    The Oklahoma State Legislature, just made using solar power a punishable offense with a fine.

    How do you guys all feel about that?
     
  2. fraggle_rock

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    It's beyond retarded... do you have a link?
     
  3. AceK

    AceK Scientia Potentia Est

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    That sounds dead wrong, it should be the other way around...
     
  4. AceK

    AceK Scientia Potentia Est

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  5. monkjr

    monkjr Senior Member

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    Libertarians really need to at the minimum, not be part of the Republican Party anymore, they really need their own party, even if it means they don't caucus with the Democrats.

    So far all they've had is Ron and Rand Paul, who are within the umbrella of the Republican party.

    The Republican party is bought by big oil I think even more so than the Democrats.
     
  6. 6-eyed shaman

    6-eyed shaman Sock-eye salmon

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    I thought subsidizes and tax incentives were the only thing keeping solar energy afloat.
     
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    attack the power grid cowards..[​IMG]
     
  8. snowtiggernd

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    They have been attacking alternative energy in several states this year and its only going to get worse. Fascist groups like americans for prosperity and a.l.e.c are pushing it obviously for the coal industry.
     
  9. AiryFox

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    Lots of stupid states make stupid decisions to draw attention away from the real problems with politics.
     
  10. fraggle_rock

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    Oklahoma's biggest industries are oil and natural gas, and it has the worst record of using renewable resources.

    It's disgusting.
     
  11. 6-eyed shaman

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    From the article it appears they're only attacking solar electricity generators. I'm not saying it's a good thing. Fortunately they don't appear to be attacking solar water heating units. It's more efficient to be using solar energy for water heating than electricity anyway.
     
  12. StpLSD25

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    This is why government shouldn't get involved. Liberals demand more and more regulations, but they're not touching the Military-industrial complex, which is half government. Expanding government will always end in more stupid laws, and eventually a total power grab. (like we see today)


    In fact, they help all the corrupt oil industries and bankers. That is why they pass laws that make no sense, because they are profitting from it. This is precisely why they can't be trusted!
     
  13. scratcho

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    Has nothing to do with liberals. Oil & gas folks are not liberals.
     
  14. StpLSD25

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    It has to do with Liberals because they support crazy government regulations including banning lemonade stands, large soft drinks, etc.

    Liberals basically trust government to take over total control of our industry, when this has been proven to be extremely expensive and disastrous.

    In my opinion, government regulations are crazy because they have an agenda they're pushing for corporate interest. If you think Liberalism is exempt for that, you're sadly mistaken. Ted Turner is a self-proclaimed Liberal, who believes in population control (one kid per family,) yet, he controls almost everything that's not controlled by Fox.

    So actually, Liberals at the top are also pushing an elitiest agenda, as Ted Turner himself has 5 kids, and is the #1 land owner, in the whole country.

    Al Gore also, who uses 20X the amount of energy of a normal citizen.

    My point is, the hypocrisy is based on the fact that they are more loyal to their business buddies, than the US people. Then, it is obvious that it's futile to expect them to correct themselves by taxing more.
     
  15. fraggle_rock

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    StpLSD-- tell it to your psychiatrist.
     
  16. StpLSD25

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    I don't go to psychiatrist. I've told plenty of doctors, who not only didn't think I was mentally unstable, but actually agreed with me as well...


    You Liberals prove my stereotype against you, more and more, everyday.


    On (very) rare occasion, when the government does something good, or, when they even say they're "going to" something good, Liberals praise them. However, when they sign unconstitutional laws, that makes no sense from a true capitalistic society. Solar panels should be able to contest the Electric company, but the government is a racket that is too entwined with (what they tell us, is "civilized society." ) Meanwhile, we have been demoralized and desensitized, by those very same forces.

    Idc what you Liberals think, government is just as much to blame for the corruption as the corporations.Even though it's corporate agendas being pushed through law, it is government who passes and enforces these insane laws.
     
  17. Red Fox VII

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    You've put too much faith in these conspiracy theories STP. How do you know it's not a conspiracy to distract you from a larger conspiracy?
     
  18. monkjr

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    This is where I think you are false STP, as I've told you before.

    The label of Liberal, or even Conservative means nothing, and is an overgeneralized term to describe people's political beliefs.


    Whether someone supports a certain position on a certain issue or not, depends on the DETAILS of the deal and what each individual piece of legislation SAYS and thus will do both short term and long term.


    And I know many other intelligent people here who see the flaws in what Oklahoma is doing, and the job of the citizenry of the United States is to give political pressure to that state to change bad policy through campaigns, and boycotts, and that we vote smart critical thinking, NEW people to office who don't come from the aristocracy into positions of power.
     
  19. OddApple

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    The good thing about the stupid and childish tho, they always think and vote what they're programmed to. Like fish in a bucket. A rich man can at least give you a job, the rest can only give problems they expect solved until a society finally arrives at the final solution via it's own "Squeekiest wheels". People should do what seems good to them.
     
  20. monkjr

    monkjr Senior Member

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    The flip side of that, is that the rich man gives you a job (or doesn't), but also controls and keeps those working for them in subservient roles with very little chance of rising, despite skill sets of the employees. Generally speaking, people don't get hired based on what they know, they get hired through recommendations on WHO they know. That's called politics too.

    We talk about politics in government having this dynamic, but let's talk about this dynamic in the private sector too regarding lots of red tape that employees experience among themselves and with their bosses.

    I believe the TV show "The Office" satires this very concept both in the American version of the show and the British version, and really that's got to change.

    There must be a more balanced approach to how society organizes itself and values itself, and the wealth gap is a barometer of that in society.
     

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