Attention Parents Of Teens!!!!

Marijuana should NOT be illegal. Adults should be able to decide what they put into their own bodies.

The Drug War is the stupidest, saddest and most pathetic war ever fought against the people of the world.

Parents should be able to dictate what goes on in their own homes.

 

Exactly.

Plus, if I had a kid, and my car was towed because he had drugs on him, someone would get a beating.

 

I just thought that I would mention the fact that, although proper spelling and grammar seem to be the indication of intelligence to you, you are apparently not aware that the word "reiterate" is redundant. the meaning of the word is "to do again again". The word that you wanted to use was "iterate". =D

 

I have noticed that the people that are spewing factless bullshit about the actual effects of marijuana, seem to be the people that know the least about this substance or don't use mj. It's a shame to see that people ramble without knowledge. The heaviest opponents of mj seem to know NOTHING about the substance except for what the government tells them to think about this substance. Another perfect example of the blind leading the blind. Just remember that if you want education about this substance, you have to search for it and going by government testing is not the real way to find out about mj, it's AWAYS a biased study done by scientists HAND picked by the government to do the testing. Has America become so brainwashed that selfthinking is a thing of the past? I guess BASIC COMMON SENSE is beyond some people. This website can help those that don't have the ability to think beyond what thier governmnet tells them to think....:www.jackherer.com.

 

You and IronGoth should hookup. This way the both of you can talk AT each other with the very little knowledge you actually have about this substance.

 

Your views are more than slightly askewed.

 

RE: Iron Goth, although I know your mind is set, I still think you should read "The Emperor Wears No Clothes" at www.jackherer.com. I think it may enlighten you a bit in certain areas such as hemp. The debate over mj legalization will be endless, but HEMP could save the world!!! It can't get you high, but it has THOUSANDS of uses.

I read that in 1991. Before then I was VERY much into hemp. Still am. Use it as a moisturizer, food, cloth and paper source. Don't smoke it, though. That stuff's not good for the soul.

RE: You would also think someone above the age of 18 would be able to view ideas and events from an alternate perspective, but apparently not.

I can see things from his perspective - I was at one point a petulant know it all 17 year old. And here's the rub - though I understand his position, there is not any way in hell that I will agree that a parent should be made to tolerate illegal behaviour or behaviour he or she considers irresponsible under his or her own roof.

RE: Maybe also after college someone who isn't you could do research among current, published studies on marijuana, rather than absorbing the DEA's information (generous) like a sponge. You might want to lay off the high horse for a while, maybe get the balls to do your own research and your own thinking.

None of my information comes from the DEA, but thanks for playing "AD HOMINEM".

RE: Cool, you have a problem letting people mind their own business too? Just a side question, but have you been associated with any religious conservative lobbying group of late?


People can do what they like. My opinion about what they do remains what it is. That distinction is lost on you, and your comment about religion is not only incorrect but also irrelevant.

RE: The difference is that people using marijuana don't kill people, steal, or lie to further their habits.

Bullshit.

RE: Quoted from erowid:

If you have a problem with me quoting the DEA (which I never have) why should I accept information from the stoner activist site erowid?

RE: When human subjects were administered daily oral doses of 180-210 mg of THC - the equivalent of 15-20 joints per day - abrupt cessation produced adverse symptoms, including disturbed sleep, restlessness, nausea, decreased appetite, and sweating.

Withdrawal....

RE: The authors interpreted these symptoms as evidence of physical dependence. However, they noted the syndrome's relatively mild nature and remained skeptical of its occurrence when marijuana is consumed in usual doses and situations. The source: Jones, Clinical Studies of Cannabis Tolerance and Dependence". From a major medical journal too.


What does this have to do with a parent not wanting a kid to bring illegal drugs into his or her house?

RE: Pot makes people stupid and lethargic. It also leads to stuff like arrest and what have you.
This statement proves you to be either stupid, ignorant, or both. Don't believe me? Check "Cannabis Sativa: Effects on Brain Function and Ultrastructure in Rhesus Monkeys," Biological Psychiatry 15:657 (1980). I went to the trouble of getting you a copy of the article: Check it out! http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/...1929&query_hl=1


Check out my own sources, in which they're starting to realize that there's a correlation between pot usage and psychosis. There's also a well known, well documented lethargic effect even satirised by the drug culture itself - Mr. "Far Out Man" Chong's character for example. Sure if you stop and get a life you stop slouching around smoking all the time and not bathing - problem is most don't stop. Especially if they're using drugs to paper over deficiencies in their own lives, like, oh, the OP and many others who've said to me "I was a depressed, pointless person then I found drugs and I like life now" in PM.

RE: If you bothered to go through that information, and the supporting data, you'd find that ***100*** times the normal marijuana dose was required (I read the article, and chose a slightly more conservative number than erowid) before *any* permanent effect on the brain was noticed.


I bothered. Since it talks of acute dosages well above any possible realistic dosages, it's irrelevant.

RE: That's a load of bullshit. Literally. Teenagers are lethargic by nature;

Wow! So, then, it's a great idea to get em smoking dope all the time, that'll counteract it, won't it?

RE: Alright then, let's make everything that's harmful to our bodies illegal! Fuck personal responsibility, let the government decide!

My take is, the government should restrict it all or allow it all. Restricting it all works for me. I don't wanna get rearended on my Harley by either a drunk or someone smoking half a tree.

RE: I just thought that I would mention the fact that, although proper spelling and grammar seem to be the indication of intelligence to you, you are apparently not aware that the word "reiterate" is redundant. the meaning of the word is "to do again again". The word that you wanted to use was "iterate". =D

Wow, you must be doing so much dope you're hallucinating. I said "I'll reiterate this" not "I'll reiterate this again" - thanks for playing. If you're gonna nitpick get your facts straight. And yeah, I sometimes do say I'll reiterate this again - it's an intentional redundancy to point out how much I have to hammer the point home with some people.

 

Totally off the topic, sideline rant.

I can't STAND the fact that people in this modern world seem to think that they should be allowed to do anything they ever want at any time or any place without judgment stigma or consequences, and yet they'll never want to accept the consequences of their actions.

Here's the rub - you either want the government or others to control you and prevent you from doing something really stupid, AND if you STILL find a way to do something stupid you win the lawyer-enrichment lottery - or, you are allowed to do what you want but YOU DO NOT HAVE THE RIGHT TO SUE ANYONE OR ASK THAT YOUR POOR POOR CONDITION BE TAKEN INTO ACCOUNT.

Stuff yourself with cheeseburgers if you wish - don't sue McDonald's for making you fat.

Smoke all the dope you want - but do the full 25 years in jail when you kill someone behind the wheel.

 

Your not a guest(im saying this assuming your a citizen.) this is our country, not the governments, "we the people".

we vote. no one in goverment would be there it it wasnt for us, the poeple, citiens of OUR country, our land.

and before anyone in government took there positions, they where just like us, election officals, expressing there opinions, being a normal citizen.

we have the right change the laws, might take a little while though. not enough people use there right to vote.

 

That is completely off topic. This thread isn't about wether pot should be legal, it is about how parents respond to catching their kids smoking pot, and why they may respond that way.

 

I think so far in this thread you have been talking to only 1 person that doesnt smoke pot.

 

But I disagree with the person that started this thread.

Marijuana is harmful to people, so that's a lie. (Inhaling smoke into your lungs is BAD, kids!)

Be more tolerant? I'm assuming your parents have told you not to use drugs, and yet you smoke pot regularly. How about waiting until you're an adult, so you can stop deceiving your folks. Then ask them to be more tolerant...

 

More than one government brainwashed person has commented about the effects of mj. Go back and read the thread and you will see what I mean.

 

Hey IronGoth, thats a really nice bike. Ill bet when your out on the hard road, you never go over 35 or whatever the limit is over there (im UK so meh). Because if you did, thats an offence isnt it? I smoke pot and my parents dont knoe, or maybe they do, either way i enjoy it responsibly ( it is possible to be responsibe)

 

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im a senior in highschool.. im 17 years old i turn 18 in december.. i get b's c's in school.. i got a job i pay my own car insurance.. i bought my own car, i pay for my own gas.. once in a while i like to smoke some pot to relax me.. im a stressed out kid.. and its improved my life so much.. marijuana is a miracle. all i ask is be easy on ur kid if u find some of his stash, and talk to them in a mature manner... and, uhh... if your kid is 12 inches in front of u.. u dont have to scream.. im sure talkaing in a normal voice, ur child can hear u perfectly fine thats all i ask.

 

Posted by IronGoth:
will NOT stop my kids from doing anything they would want to do without a valid reason. No tattoos until they're 18, cause you don't wanna put N'Sync on your arm at 13 and regret it later, or outgrow the tattoo and have it look like crap at 21. No booze drugs or tobacco. No exceptions. You can ruin your lungs, liver and brain when you're old enough to see drunks and nic fiends for what they really are, not the beer and cig commercials.

But I'm not the Nazi killjoy you think I am. They can dye their hair, cut it how they wish - wear clothes which cover various bits of their choice so long as they don't contain offensive stuff (for example: US ARMY, swastikas, etc) and generally do whatever they like so long as they don't cause any harm to themselves or others or consider something that'll ruin their lives for good.

Am I that out of touch with people here for thinking a kid shouldn't try to dictate to his parents that he should be allowed to break the law under their roof?

I agree with you on most of these points IronGoth, but why should you restrict them from wearing US ARMY? Swastikas I totally understand.

 

He's Canadian.

 

and irongoth, i am also a very polite son. im incredibly kind, if mom says " can u take out the trash?" and shes polite, even if im busy w/ somthing else ill say "sure" just because im a nice guy. or if she tells me to vacuum or somthing, ill do it. im not the rebel kind of kid u think i am. and ive had a job since i was 15 years old, so i do have work effic, and i do gymnastics as an afterschool activity, and i also skateboard. im not a lazy bum, despite what u think. and for another thing... the reason i dont get A's and try so hard at school is beacause of stress and stuff, and im busy, and id rather have fun w/ my life because i only have 1, and i dont believe in heaven, so... id rather LIVE life, and enjoy it.. just because ur not rich doesnt mean u cant be sucessfull... i think its if your happy or not... but possibly u disagree w/ me?

 

HAHAHAHAHAHAH WEARING US ARMY ON A SHIRT IS OFFENSIVE TO A CANADIAN, ARE U FUCKING KIDDING ME?!?!?