attention all weed addicts!!!

Discussion in 'Cannabis and Marijuana' started by dave255, Oct 20, 2008.

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  1. drew5147

    drew5147 Dingledodie

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    :banghead: So... many... technicalities... :banghead:
     
  2. dave255

    dave255 Banned

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    drew you're partially the cause of "so many technicalities", your immature "trolling"/WUM posts were a large contribution to the derailment of this topic.
     
  3. pushit

    pushit One jive Motha Fucka

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    Dave you ARE a troll...
     
  4. dave255

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    try re-reading all my posts then say that again. i really don't understand how this is trolling, the only people saying that haven't read the topic, i have justified everything i've said, drew just started saying random shit and refused to justify it, which is why i'm saying he was trolling me earlier.

    rather than insulting me, post some criticism of what i said, show me how i'm apparently "trolling".
     
  5. pushit

    pushit One jive Motha Fucka

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    I'm not insulting you, I'm stating what I see as the obvious. You come here and start telling stoners that they need to go do what most stoners already do. It seems to me like something someone would say when they just want to argue.

    Of course you could call me a troll for saying you're trolling.
     
  6. Asmodean

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    He said weed addicts, not stoners. I guess you think it's the same? :p
     
  7. pushit

    pushit One jive Motha Fucka

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    Pretty much, most people I've smoked with are addicts, and we are all stoners. Around here a smoker just occasionally smokes and is seen as a little bit of a douche. Stoners are the rest of us, that just want to smoke and have the fun that comes with it.
     
  8. Willy_Wonka_27

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    At least half if not more of the stoners here are addicted to weed.
     
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    because you are obviously too lazy to read the entire topic:

    "what i said doesn't apply to all addicts, rarely will apply to a single person, however many people will fit elements of the profile i've shown and i posted this to alert them to this, so they can take preventative measures. "

    more than that, it's to allow people to notice these changes in their friends, acquaintances, not just themselves. too many people view weed through rose-tinted glasses.
     
  10. Asmodean

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    Haha, looks like it :). But yeah, I thought the negative reactions in this thread were generally because most of the stoners here thought of themselves as being able to handle their smoking pretty well and so felt wrongfully accused of being weed addicts by the OP.
     
  11. drew5147

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    And I still don't understand why the OP feels the need to put down anyone who seems to "criticize" him.


    Why should someone want to accept your help when you seem so volatile and hateful?
     
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    show me a single valid criticism of what i said followed by me putting someone down.

    keep in mind the word "valid", as most of them are ignorant comments written by people who clearly haven't read what i said, just seen a sentence they disliked then insulted me.
     
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    First of all, since it is my post, I will quote the times that I feel that you were attacking/putting someone down.

    I think that most of the animosity in this thread has been due to the fact that you twist words to whatever definition suits you best.



    There you are.

    As I said, those are, In my opinion, very demeaning statements. I am not attempting to defend anyone to whom these statements were a response to, nor would I want to.

    You simply asked me to do something, and I did.

    Also, my definition of what is "valid" may differ completely from what may be yours.

    Please keep that in mind.

    I am not you.


    I am not you.
     
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    Originally Posted by Gsmall View Post
    psychologic addiction can be stopped easily. if the person doesnt want to quit theyre not going to quit. theres many drugs on this planet that are addicting that arent harmful. unless you abuse marijuana its not at all harmful just like caffeine if you drink a little nothing wrong with that but if you abuse it, it can kill you. Your taking from your own experiences and thinking everyone does it this way, in which a lot of people probally do but i still dont see the point why your trying to preach to crowd that doesnt care and even if you yourself do these kind of things, so what is the point that your trying to make-- hypocracy?

    there is so much wrong with that message, spelling aside:

    caffeine is physically addictive, as well as being a lot more harmful than weed. weed is nothing like caffeine, it can't directly kill you if you abuse it.

    you seem to think psychological addictions are minor, you think problem overeating is minor? that people would just stop if they could? compulsive gambling? any rewarding behaviour carries the risk of psychological addiction, a lot of people have poor self control, why do so many of you find it hard to believe the FACT that people become psychologically addicted to weed? i'm not theorising, this isn't my opinion, this is truth.

    i don't think everyone thinks this way, i've never once said that.

    but i wouldn't expect a 16 year old to understand what i'm saying, let alone respond maturely, so i'll let you off the hook. could you please read the topic before responding next time, or simply refrain from clogging it up with clutter, i'd like it if we could discuss the topic at hand, rather than me having to rebuff attack after attack.
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    o? you seem to not think caffeine can kill you, read the news buddy or are you too busy being a hypocryt?

    THIS IS WHY I SAY PEOPLE DON'T READ

    "weed is nothing like caffeine, it can't directly kill you if you abuse it."

    are you retarded?

    caffeine can directly kill you, weed can't. you are so fucking stupid.

    Originally Posted by Gsmall View Post
    hah and you say im the stupid one, my point is caffeine is used by more people then pot just because pot has a psychological addiction doesnt mean its bad for you every thing on this planet gives you an opening to become psychologically addicted to it so therefore your so called point may be true but it has no value what so ever -- if some one wants to put their selves into a stereotype then so be it your pretty much saying that if you listen to rap music youll become a gangster. and yea i have bad spelling punctuation and grammar but i dont care im not trying to impress some one with less reasoning then a monkey.. have a nice day you can reply to this but im not going to reply to w/e your idiotic response is.

    weed stimulates reward pathways in the brain, it has a much higher potential for psychological addiction than most things.

    my point has value, you are just too young/stupid to understand it, things aren't as black and white as you seem to think they are; a major component of cigarette addiction is the psychological addiction, it's not just the physical dependency on tobacco.


    poorly formatted but most of the bolded ones are in response to complete idiocy, every point was objectively invalid.
     
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    what did i expect? read back through some of my posts, one of them i listed out some posters who responded maturely and normally. i expected better reading comprehension and a higher level of general drug knowledge for one thing.


    Expectations are premeditated resentments.


    Are you feeling resentful?


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    my expectations weren't premeditated resentments, did you read my posts? i expected mainly normality, as i indicated by singling out the few posters who responded normally; i'll repeat myself so you understand better, those people i singled out where the kind of people i expected the majority of responses to come from.

    your post above is another example of people reading what they want to read, rather than bothering to understand the message.

    i am feeling resentful now, yes, though not in the sense of feeling bitter, only slight e-anger, because i wrote out a bunch of posts and most people lacked the reading comprehension to understand what i was saying.

    why did so many people assume this was aimed directly at them? it's aimed at increasing awareness, it is aimed at everyone here, but to allow them to identify possible problems not just with themselves, but with their friends and acquaintances.

    I think that it is foolish to attempt to increase awareness by taking an aggressive tact.

    And the saying "expectations are premeditated resentments" is from a 12-step program, so I wouldn't expect you to comprehend its full implications.

    And people will read into your posts what they will, because what is this objective reality if it isnt based on one's observations.


    Take what you like, and leave the rest.

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    you see it as aggressive, i don't.

    I wouldn't expect you to comprehend its full implications.

    why did you say it then?

    and why not, you know, explain it?


    you're just another pretentious teen on the internet who thinks they're above everyone else, why don't you get off your high horse and actually post something meaningful, rather than quoting a 12 step program?
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    you see it as aggressive, i don't.

    I wouldn't expect you to comprehend its full implications.

    why did you say it then?

    and why not, you know, explain it?

    you're just another pretentious teen on the internet who thinks they're above everyone else, why don't you get off your high horse and actually post something meaningful, rather than quoting a 12 step program?


    Attack.



    And 12 step programs are extremely meaningful and useful.


    Of course, you wouldn't know.

    Originally Posted by dave255 View Post
    no, i don't know? yes i attacked you, because you say all this stuff then don't explain it.

    i was justified in attacking you for that reason, as you have carried on with your holier than thou attitude and still refuse to explain yourself. you are arrogant and pretentious, and you've just reinforced what i'm saying by continuing to post like this.

    again : why don't you get off your high horse and give me a legitimate response?


    Because this is the internets, and I can do as I please.



    Why don't you experience it for yourself, instead of sitting on the internet putting people down.




    that's you "trolling" me. you still haven't given me a serious response.
     
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    and your post is useless without posting what i was responding to, most/all of those responses you quoted were in response to someone insulting me, telling me i'm retarded and then saying false truths.
     
  17. drew5147

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    That was my point, that you seem to want to put people down.

    If you dont want to listen to what I have to say, then don't.


    you dont have to get all defensive.

    I was just asking you to be a bit more civil, and understanding.

    But whatever, I'm done.

    I won't be posting in this thread again.


    Goodbye.


    Perhaps you are the one who reads into something what you wish, because you still haven't answered my question of why you are so abusive and hateful.

    Why not try to read, and comprehend, the second paragraph in my signature.

    Perhaps that will help you.

    Keep in mind, I'm not attempting to force you to do so.

    I wasn't trying to offend or abuse you in any way, but if that is what you wish to interpret it as, so be it.

    You catch more flies with honey, than vinegar.

    Namaste.
     
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    i was only ever aggressive in response to aggression, i was never the aggressor.

    i'm not seeking to destroy, i'm seeking to inform.


    did you read our conversation in the post above yours? where i am perfectly reasonable until :

    DREW:
    I think that it is foolish to attempt to increase awareness by taking an aggressive tact.

    And the saying "expectations are premeditated resentments" is from a 12-step program, so I wouldn't expect you to comprehend its full implications.

    And people will read into your posts what they will, because what is this objective reality if it isnt based on one's observations.


    Take what you like, and leave the rest.

    dave255:
    you see it as aggressive, i don't.

    DREW QUOTE: I wouldn't expect you to comprehend its full implications.

    DAVE: why did you say it then?

    and why not, you know, explain it?


    you're just another pretentious teen on the internet who thinks they're above everyone else, why don't you get off your high horse and actually post something meaningful, rather than quoting a 12 step program?


    notice how you called me foolish before i insulted you.

    do you not see how your refusal to elaborate resulted in me (rightly) labelling you as pretentious? you think you're above explaining yourself. every personal criticism i've made has been justified.
     
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    Wow I can't believe this topic is still going on. For those who believe this is a personal attack , it is only a personal attack if you take it personally. Dave only made a comment based on his own experience. From what I read the statements he made where just a warning to those that have a problem with addiction,clear and simple. To continue to defend the fact you are not an addict and give reasons why you are not one, only makes you look more and more like an addict.
     
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    Dave, it's no use. People here really do view weed through rose-tinted glasses, to the point where a large majority think it causes literally no health problems.

    Just let people be, they need to find out on their own, because they will never believe that their precious has consequences ;)

    It's hard to make Idols fall.

    Seriously dave, dont lose your breath or waste your time. People will learn on their own. They think you are just full of shit and a joke.
     
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