Attack on Iran - IMMINENT!

He does not imply the UK is he seems to suggest it is the US.

Very Americancentric of him.

He seems to ignore the fact that it is a UK issue - for the most part. If any info was falsified it was the Iranians who did that.

 

How can you prove that the ship wasn't moved back into iraqi waters after the whole debacle? Anyway the brits were taken from auxillary water craft, not the ship itself, so how does that prove anything at all?

 

I take the word of a Captain with a grain of salt, even if he had moved the ship I very seriously doubt he would tell the embarassing truth. As to what you believe is logical and illogical, that's completely irrelevant at this point, yes it would be common sense to go directly to and from ships, however who can say what was actually going on? Perhaps they had more nefarious purposes in mind, I really don't know either way. What I do know is that I do not personally believe we are being told the whole story, somethings fishy here. Neither the Brits or the Iranians have a stellar reputation for honesty.....makes me wonder what both sides are leaving out. It's a bit frightening either way.....I wonder if this is the "new" gulf of tonkin??

 

Well if the ship actually WAS in Iranian waters, it could be potentially embarassing to the UK.

What I mean is to say that "common sense" may not matter either way if they were doing more than what they said (ie: surveillance, spying, whatever) if they had other reasons for being there it wouldn't matter which route would be the most logical to us, because we wouldn't have the whole story anyway.

Simply broad speculation on my part.

I don't believe Iran over the UK, I don't believe either one of them is being totally honest.

Agreed.

 

iran may be persian but you'd probably find there are an awful lot of ethinically arab people there. from a the perspective of arabic culture (as i included) you have to remember that iran is an islamic state and islam is from arabia, mohammed was an arab.

if you consider yugoslavia for example it is widely known to a war based on ethinic cleansing, now the chances are that the people living there are so intermixed it would be hard to separate who was "pure" ethnically so as you said it has a whole lot to do with religion.

from a practical understanding without descending into semantics the war is functionally an exercise in ethnic cleansing

 

What about the captured sailors that admit they were in Iranian waters? You really think todays military and naval forces don't don't exactly where they are every minute of every exercise.

 

What about the "capturered" detainees by the US and coalition forces? should their statements be taken with less credibility? They are held for years without access to media or counsel. You can't have it both ways.

We accept their admissions of guilt and execute them.

 

Yes, exactly. I've been able to view the condition of the Iranian detainees, those held by the coalition have been hidden and moved around to secret bases, the US government has legislated the permission for torture...who would you believe?

 

I hope you are wrong. But I fear you are right. Bush, Cheney and ilk think they are above control, but I can see them escalating this into something the world will regret for a long time. I figured when they moved the carriers into position last summer we were gearing up for just this sort of thing. You can't really justify the movement of those type of craft without a potential outcome. It's just too expensive. And it shown previous knowledge and foresight if not manipulation of the situation.

 

Neither one of those countries are capable of attacking the US, there military organizations are in shambles....and if they were able to some how....they know it would be there own destruction ....the US is the only country to deploy nuclear weapons against another and are willing to do it even today.

As for attacking Iran this really should not be a surprise, the writing has been on the wall so to say for years, certain groups in the US have had intentions to control and conquer the region at least since the 1970s. Slowly but surely they have been manipulating the countries in the region and it looks like there plans are most likely falling into place.

 

ya I saw that too...............they're all fucking crazy.

 

The attack on Iran will be within a few weeks. The Jerusalem Post said that maybe this Friday, but it's never what they tell us. The attack likely won't start until the Nimitz arrives.

 

better time?....it would only take a few weeks to have there infrastructure destroyed by missile and aircraft bombing....decades of development gone

 

:lol:

 

oops my bad...

yeah now is the better time for a military action, with new UN sanctions ...they can use that as a cover.

when iran rejects the UN sanctions and can not be "controlled thru civilized matters" ....military action will be needed.

the American people are bots and will believe what ever they are told and are easily influenced.

things should get interesting in the coming months.

 

Keep in mind, people, these wars were all planned well before 9/11 by the PNAC neocons. Syria and North Korea are on the menu as well.

We're not just going to see military action against Iran, we are going to see a full-blown war. This is the long-term plan and I have been talking about it for years. Don't think Iran isn't going to strike back if they're attacked. This is what the neocons want. By provoking Iran, they are going to create a major escalation in violence, and the entire Middle East will erupt into chaos. They will use this to reinstate the draft.

 

North korea is a low priority ....there current economic and agriculture systems are in shambles they are barely hanging in there. Syria tho a thorn in there side is a minor disruption, they simple used those countries as diversions to the real target....Iran

Iraq has been crushed and most of the other arab countries in the region have allowed US "intervention" within there borders ....the only main obsticle is Iran.

Iran is very limited in there ability to launch any kind of a counter strike, after a bombardment that could last for months they would be to destablized and would no longer have much clout in the region.

Once dealt with, the US will have no one in its way to controlling the region......

 

I was going to be rude and say ''he aint never going to find that information'' [that the US falsified information] but i gave him the benefit of the doubt - still waiting.

I was only saying gardener is making it into a US / Iranian issue when it is not.
He seemed to ignore the reality of the situation - imho

 

i can only hope that the people of iran will be able to defend themselves.