Attack on Boston Marathon

trash men dont risk their lives picking up trash.

The people were showing appreciation for doing a good job in finding these people. This wasnt your average convienent store hold up with no casualties.

 

The people of Watertown are glad to have their town back. The manhunt operation was done with many agencies and overall without any major screw-ups.

There could have been collateral damage such as innocent people being shot which sometimes happens as a result of lack of discipline or simply accidents. The general public came out of this unscathed for the most part. Not as good for law enforcement. One young officer from MIT was killed and another shot, which is unfortunate.

 

+rep......



Cheers Glen.

 

One of the more interesting things about this incident is that it's the first major crisis of its kind in the US to take place in an era when digital technology is everywhere, all the time. It sure made a big difference. It's amazing how fast everything unfolded.

The Unabomber couldn't begin a 16-year career today.

 

That's a good example too, cause the unabomber was extremely anti-technology.

It really is an interesting case for any techies, futurists, privacy, or security enthusiasts; because it really turns a lot of the cultural debate of cctv as a 'possibly invasive possibly totalitarian tool' vs 'a responsible security solution' on it's head. We don't have any other examples of surveillance being used so efficiently and producing such favorable results during such a major crisis.

 

wow too strong because it's too true

And when we're all pefectly safe we all be perfectly without any kind of freedom.

Living free requires accepting that bad things will happen to good people for terriable reasons that most had nothing to do with.

No disrespect ment to you but personally I think anyone that's totting this as a triumph of modern digital surveillance should shove their technology where the sun don't shine.

If someone want to live in a cage then that's their right to do so... Personally I'm willing to take the risk in order to keep my freedom. So kindly please stop fucking with my freedom.

 

After he was captured, I drove from Watertown to Allston and back, and I came across some of the celebration, lots of people applauding a long line of state police cruisers leaving Watertown. After I got back, I felt so relieved I drank a sufficient amount of tequila and slept for ten hours.

 

I have been severely criticized here by several of you for appearing to care more about a terrorist attack in Boston, my city, than events in Syria, etc., even tho I made no such comparisons or said anything like that. All I did was care deeply about what was happening in my city.

I just want to say that I think this criticism is wrong on several levels. I think it's absolutely right to care more about things that are close than things that are far away. Carrying this a step farther, I think one should care most about one's own life. Next, one should care about one's own family. Next, one should care about one's own neighborhood, town or city. Next comes one's country and then comes the world.

If you don't care most about what's close to you, I think your politics become abstract and removed from reality, literally distant from the real issues in your life.

"All politics is local." -- Tip O'Neill, local hero.

 

I mostly disagree. The next time I walk down Boylston Street in Boston, it won't bother me to think that somebody might be watching on video surveillance camera. Mostly, it will be purse snatchers and rapists who need to worry about that. I won't be doing anything except walking down the street, waiting for traffic lights, and walking into businesses. Ordinary, boring stuff that everybody does. When I worry less about crime, I feel more free.

There are no police cameras inside my house.

They'll be rocking down in downtown Boston tonight! I wish I could be there.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ef65cLi1gpY"]Boston-Rock and Roll band - YouTube

I can't figure out why Syria has come up so often in this thread. Those people are victims of their own government, which has never been supported by the US. They have always been aligned with Russia and the USSR. Trying to fix that country right now makes unscrambling an egg look like child's play. I feel bad for the Syrian people, but I don't know what to do for them. If an international consensus forms around doing one specific thing, I assume that the US will do it's part. I don't think anybody knows exactly what to do. Not similar to the Boston situation.

Survival always has to come first. Like they say before airplane flights, put on your own oxygen mask before you try to help somebody else.

 

Well I won't be going to Boston any time soon. In fact I won't be visiting the United States at all. We have these fucking CCTV cameras all over my nation and my solution to this bollocks is simple. I don't go anywhere they're located. It's a simple as that.

But let me say to you what I say to others that wants this bollocks.

If anyone wants to live in cage or put themself on some kind of radio transmitter because they have nothing to hide. Well than can go right ahead and do that. I won't lift a finger to stop them.

But if they try forcing me to live under those condtions than they better be prepared to defend themselves. Because I'm going to use any means possible to shove that fucking camera through their face.

IE: Keep your blooming surveillance shit on your side of the fence and no one will have any problems with me.

 

Sunfighter, i'm absolutely certain that if a bomb exploded in my neighbourhood i would be in a state of shock and would exhibit signs of anxiety, especially if i was worried about loved ones, so your reaction is normal... i also think that the peeps who you perceived as criticising you have a very good point too... they also are passionate about what they are trying to convey in this situation... you are all right... you are all very human, and i love you all...

found this today and tried to post it earlier but internet disappeared...
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2311953/FBI-interviewed-Boston-Marathon-bombing-suspect-Tamerlan-Tsarnaev-26-possible-extremist-ties-years-ago-incriminating-information.html

i don't think it wise to jump to any conclusions about the accused just yet... both their mother and father think they have been set up... if the FBI knew them for that long, (3-5 years) isn't it highly suspicious that they seemed to manage to accomplish their mission? i smell a rat... but i don't know the truth of what happened... yet... i may never... but what i do know is that the usual suspects are trying their hardest to demonise people before proven to be guilty... even then, given the infiltration in our justice systems, we may never get to the truth... just try to keep an open mind please? :2thumbsup:

 

I don't see this cage concept you keep talking about, except in airports and at large public events. When anyone walks on a public street, we all know that the police or anybody else has the right to pay attention to what you are doing. That was true 300 years ago.

 

I'd like to care about what's happening close to me, unfortunately UK BBC radio seems to have gone overboard on this subject, ad nauseum.

We've just been treated to several minutes of some American teen burbling on incoherently and, frankly, embarressingly, the upshot of which appeared to be that (a) she went to the same school as one of the alledged bombers, and (b) she was suprised it happened.

If a bomb were to explode in a UK provincial city tonight and several people died - what would be the reaction of the US media ? Would there be a reaction ? I doubt it.

Ok, so several Americans died, we all accept the message that they were more important than the average non-American victims of violent death. Can we have our media back now, please ?

 

:sifone:

 

300 years ago no one was filming you, running facial recognition software or cataloging you in a database shared between hundreds of law enforcement and government agencies.


You know what gets me about all of this???

Most of the people that are willing to let the government film them scratching their bottoms would freak out and rise up in total anger at the idea of a gun registry or a possible GPS micro chip embeded in their gun.

And you're all missing the fact that nothing was prevented despite the massive surveillance and direct media coverage of the bombing event. All that surveillance and the bombs still exploded and people were killed or injured.

How about this for a radical idea.
Focus on preventing this sort of thing from happening by implimenting good foreign and domestic polices that treat people with dignity and respect. It's surprising how far politness and common courtesy go to lowering crime and violence rates.

 

They watched the older bro for a bit back in the late 2000's. He wasnt doing anything suspicious so they stopped monitoring him

 

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a bit? more than a bit! how do we KNOW they stopped monitoring them? i don't think it works like that...

 

300 years ago, most Americans lived in tiny towns or rural areas. Local deputies were able to keep detailed information about citizens in their heads. Personal privacy was close to zero. Your neighbors would have kept close tabs on your activities, and had very specific and demanding expectations about your life. Modern people have much more personal freedom now. My neighbors don't know or care what I do, as long as I don't bother them. I'm not paranoid enough to think law enforcement cares where or when I eat, shop, or work. WTF could they do with that information?

 

And yet you are prepared to find that out the hard way? Ah well, perhaps you can flee to Italy before it's really too late