Atheists religions; a rose by another name

As far as I'm concerned, Leonard Nimoy deserves as much credit for the success of the Star Trek series as Gene Roddenberry, who was a certifiable visionary. Gene had stars in his eyes, while Leonard had them in his soul.

 

those darn athiests

 

I'd rather baby sit for a room full of spoiled brats.

 

I cringed so very hard... I don't know which I would prefer... but, sometimes you can trick children into being quiet... so there is that.

 

Of course you would, none of them would be challenging you to examine your thoughts and make sense.

 

Atheism is living without a belief in any god, being, entity, or supernatural tenet of any religion.

It's not an assertion of knowledge or claim about reality; it's merely acceptance of what we currently know to be true: that humans create gods, and there's no reason to think the one in the dominant religion in American culture isn't also made up.

It's cute how religionists over and over make this argument that atheism is a religion. You what end, is what I ask. Even if we bend the definition of religion to include atheism, that isn't going to make the claims of any other religion be true.

 

chaos is not the identity of evil, harm is, and personification, is not the opposite of either.

there could exist a god. there could exist billions of them. or what exists could easily be something else entirely.
there are infinity minus two other unique possibilities, every bit as likely as those two.

the unknown remains unknown, and there will always be more unknown then known.
what can logically be concluded, is that whatever does exist, owes nothing,
to what anyone tells anyone else, to pretend about it.

not all beliefs are equally dictatorial in demanding everyone tell each other to pretend the same things.

but at any rate, there is not direct evidence, of a link, between what followers of any belief,
demand each other pretend, and whatever gods or god-like beings, might actually happen to exist.

i have nothing against strangeness being regarded as sacred. i do so myself.
but i also believe, the way to avoid causing harm,
that all beliefs try to encourage people to want to avoid causing,
is the combination of logic, consideration and honesty.

that whatever the belief or lack of it,
the causing of harm, which is the only real evil,
without logic in the service of consideration,
there is no way, to even be aware of how much one contributes to causing it,
let alone, any tool by which, the causing of it, can be prevented.

i'm all for invisible friends. i'm fine with the notion they might exist,
hug them and squeeze them and call them george,

but the real evil, which is to cause real harm,
is not in any observable or known way,
prevented by the personification, of what is not known.

 

Comforting.

It bothers me sometimes, trying to adjust to a sick society.

As I vomit out the window.

 

there are people who believe that nothing non-physical can exist.
i am not one of them.
but i do believe the unknown is unknown
and take great comfort in the diversity of what is

 

What do you worship?

 

I have seen in places; a desire for cooperative economics, as a policy issue.

How would this work?

 

Unlike our fellow humans who believe in a biblical god, us Atheists don't preach, don't try to convert people or gather on a specific day so a man in a pulpit can remind us how unworthy we are. We just get on with our lives quite happily.

 

goodness and a demand to be worshiped, are a direct absolute contradiction.
nothing to stop the existence of self aware beings who are neither physical nor imaginary if they should choose to.
but an awareness that is good, accepts all other awareness's, on equal terms with itself. even if it created them.
the unknown being unknown does not prevent the existence of anything you might want to believe,
but neither does it require anything to be infallible, have the slightest desire to be feared, nor owe anything to what any of us tell each other.
even if it were written thousands of years ago.

 

I was really vomiting out of windows 7 years ago.

 

A belief in god(s) is not a sine qua non of religious faith.

atheism
noun
athe·ism ˈā-thē-ˌi-zəm
1:a
: a lack of belief or a strong disbelief in the existence of a god or any gods
1:b
: a philosophical or religious position characterized by disbelief in the existence of a god or any gods
Merriam-Webster

Atheism precludes the belief in gods, but not religion per se.

religion
noun
re·li·gion ri-ˈli-jən
1: a personal set or institutionalized system of religious attitudes, beliefs, and practices
2: a(1)
: the service and worship of God or the supernatural
2:a(2)
: commitment or devotion to religious faith or observance
2:b
: the state of a religious
a nun in her 20th year of religion
3: a cause, principle, or system of beliefs held to with ardor and faith.
Merriam-Webster

Religion may include " the service and worship of God or the supernatural ", but not necessarily.
Religion can also be a non-theistic (atheistic) "personal set or institutionalized system of religious attitudes, beliefs, and practices", a "commitment or devotion to religious faith or observance", or "a cause, principle, or system of beliefs held to with ardor and faith."

 

As an atheist, this take bugs the crap out of me. Non-atheists redefine atheism into something easier to argue against. But there is literally no argument here.

You're asking me to try and understand something that doesn't exist. If I felt there was something to I understand, I wouldn't be an atheist. Absence of something is not something in and of itself.

Atheism isn't saying, I don't believe God exists; it's saying, God doesn't exist. I don't have to understand it because it's not real.

 

Only a sith deals in absolutes.......I will do what I must.

 

I'm not sure this is on topic, but since this seems to be the most active thread in the atheist forum, I thought I'd post it here. Last Sunday, I had to choose which Bible study to go to. Ordinarily, it would be the Methodists, but an atheist group I also take fellowship with was doing the Book of Job, and my regular Methodist Sunday school was doing the national parks, the religious significance of which escapes me. Anyhow, I chose the atheists. It turned out to be a good choice. Not only did we do a respectable job on Job, but one of the members confided in the group about a moral dilemma she was wrestling with. She found over $100 in the parking lot of a shopping center. No way of identifying the owner or even which store it came from. So she took the money, but is keeping an eye out for any reports of lost cash. I was impressed that she was wrestling with the dilemma. She became an atheist after the death of her daughter--mainly because she was so offended at the efforts of her Christian church friends to comfort her by explaining it was all part of God's plan. (Job and his "comforting" friends seemed particularly pertinent here.) Anyhow, I came away uplifted by what I regarded as an encounter with someone whose conscience was working as it should. She reinforced my faith in human decency--and in an unexpected place. I'm sure Jesus would have been proud!