Atheism vs. World Religions - Which has caused more deaths?

Discussion in 'Random Thoughts' started by Michael Savage, Feb 29, 2008.

  1. Michael Savage

    Michael Savage Member

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    You don't think that all those souls that perished under Stalin were murdered?


    Let's see...he intentionally starved them. Ergo they were murdered. If you don't see that I'd have to say you're the legendary idiot.


    And that rough total of 80 million was just from the 2 biggest names I was aware of. I'd still bet anyday that those killed at the hands of atheist governments/groups greatly outnumber those killed at the hands of religious governments/groups.




    The one thing you are right about is that it's a rather blunt argument, but it's still something to be considered.
     
  2. Beckner420

    Beckner420 troll

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    Atheists killed jesus, and JFK.
     
  3. mamaKCita

    mamaKCita fucking stupid.

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    i thought it was all kind of amusing, a great take on the lame blaming of religion for the world's ills. i hate when people say how religion kills people when really it's just an excuse. any excuse will do if you want to win bad enough. whether it's property, government, resources, control over people and women especially, well, religion is just handy. a completely lack of any religion is equally as handy.
     
  4. Unknown American

    Unknown American Rogue Capitalist

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    Actually Jews killed Jesus. It is in the Bible.:)

    I can belive this thread is still here
     
  5. mamaKCita

    mamaKCita fucking stupid.

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    i thought the italians killed jesus...
     
  6. Beckner420

    Beckner420 troll

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    Italian athiests.
     
  7. Unknown American

    Unknown American Rogue Capitalist

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    Well actually if you read the Gnostic text Jesus died a very old man.
     
  8. mamaKCita

    mamaKCita fucking stupid.

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    didn't the mafia kill JFK?

    religion doesn't kill people, italians do! :stunned:
     
  9. Beckner420

    Beckner420 troll

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    An italian killed my lawnmower goddamit.
     
  10. praxiskepsis

    praxiskepsis ha!

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    Which mafia? The CIA or the Pentagon?

    But I agree with lode, the argument of the OP is based on false correlation.

    But I didn't read the whole thing so choose not to respond.

    I guess I'm agnostic. I usually call myself an atheist but I'm too disinterested in arguing for the non-existence of God for that to be the case.

    God and unicorns for me are interchangeable.
     
  11. Unknown American

    Unknown American Rogue Capitalist

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    Hum in thinking back about the Bible. God smoted the hell out of a lot of people.

    I wounder if that is included in the which caused more deaths argument.

    I seem to remember him drowning everyone at one point. Then he torched a few places here and there. Then there is the pillar of salt thing.

    Is god Italian?
     
  12. mamaKCita

    mamaKCita fucking stupid.

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    well, if we're just throwing out random, baseless accusations, the mafia always sounds like a good one to me, most people like to happily march along blaming religion while disregarding all the other factors that come into a conflict and/or behavior. the same sort of factors they'd be the first to point out when someone just as baselessly blames atheism.
     
  13. mamaKCita

    mamaKCita fucking stupid.

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    according to my friend's mother's paintings he is.
     
  14. praxiskepsis

    praxiskepsis ha!

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    It's all a big simplism!

    The number crunching sounds analogous to the Fed's justifications for bailing out the dollar. Debts are investments, and so on so forth...
     
  15. Posthumous

    Posthumous Resident Smartass

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    The new and old testiment do not fit together. First half is fire and brimstone; the second is love thy neighbor and turn the other cheek, save that hideous book of revelations of course.
     
  16. Allonym

    Allonym cheesecake slut

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    :rolleyes: so, because xians are bashed, atheists should be too?

    bestest logic evar.
     
  17. themnax

    themnax Senior Member

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    i don't think either of them has DIRECTLY CAUSED ANY deaths.
    but the latter has certainly INSPIRED a good many more then the former.

    millions if not billions

    however, i don't believe the kind of intolerance practiced by fanatics of any strip, was the intention of any of the revealers of any of them either.

    =^^=
    .../\...
     
  18. ESRUOS ENO

    ESRUOS ENO Senior Member

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    Neither ....Nothing really ever dies... death is a illusion..
     
  19. themnax

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    that is also one possibility. the littlest grandmother gets awfully tired kind of easily though.

    getting killed (even without dying in any perminent sense) is rather disconcerting and more then a little annoying. it is generally considered somewhat rude and uncultured to cause this to happen.

    =^^=
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  20. ESRUOS ENO

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    I know it is annoying.. Best way to avoid death is to ignore it or cherish it.. Ive grown old and tied.. of dying...... We need to live together forever... then why suffer death at all... The Almighty knows the illusion... The blind just havent seen it yet.
     
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