Atheism Vs Christianity

Discussion in 'Agnosticism and Atheism' started by MarijuanaPhysicist, Sep 29, 2005.

  1. MollyBloom

    MollyBloom Member

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    So I think a better title for your thread would be Atheism vs. Creationism, or Evolution vs. Creationism. ...(since not all Christians discredit the theory of evolution.)
     
  2. Butch

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    To think science has all the answers to life's greatest questions is deluded. There are two types of science: factual science and philosophical science. Factual science comes up with the facts and then philosophical science fills in the blanks to try and create a theory that resembles the truth. Philosophical science theories like evolution take more faith than Christianity.

    The facts are that many species exist and that some species are extinct; thats factual science. Based on these facts philosophical science steps in to try and complete the picture. The Evolutionary theory of origin is the perfect example of how much faith philosophical science requires. Let me ask you - has it ever been scientifically proven that life can or did spontaneously come into existence through random chance? Has it ever been scientifically proven that one species can or did change into another species? No and No. The faith required to believe in the evolutionary theory is huge.

    What has been proven, I think, is that bacteria can adapt to different conditions (within species adaption). The bacteria has never been shown to evovle into another species; it always remains bacteria. Ah, but what if we add in millions of years, surely then it would be something else? Thats speculation my friend and is not factual science.

    By all means you scientists keep the faith, but realise that your beliefs do take faith, and a truck load of it at that.

    Jesus does not ask you to believe that if you drop a hammer it will not fall everytime. He does not ask you to believe that 2+2 is not 4. Jesus is not against true factual science. He came to reveal what true factual science cannot touch: Truth about the gretaest questions in life, truth that will lead you to God if you follow it.

    Good day to you all.
     
  3. Zion

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    WHAT The fuck does it matter whole old the world is. Time is infinetel relative anyways.
    Fact is the universe does exist
     
  4. Sera Michele

    Sera Michele Senior Member

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    Knowing the age of the earth and universe has scientific value.
     
  5. Burbot

    Burbot Dig my burdei

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    besides, the Pope John Paul II has said that "believing in evolution does not mean disbelief in god"
     
  6. FreakerSoup

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    Fossils take longer than 6000 years to form. No flood, whatever the circumstances, within that time span would have resulted in all the fossils that are lined up in different strata according to their age, with the least evolved fossils in the oldest rock.

    Also, if there were a garden of eden, it would be by the tigris and euphrates rivers, near Iraq and Iran. Yeah, there's no paradise there, so was god's perfect garden destroyed by men or what?

    And lots of other stuff. You know what to do? Introduce him to Hipforums and have him start a thread in the Christianity section.
     
  7. Libertine

    Libertine Guru of Hedonopia

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    To think RELIGION has all the answers to life's greatest questions is deluded. There are two more types of science: factual science and "RELIGION science". Factual science comes up with the facts and then FAITH fills in the gap like with volcano gods, etc.. Philosophical science theories like evolution are much more reasonable than "faith" in Invisible Sky Daddy sacrificing himself to appease himself and now sits at the right hand of himself.

    The facts are that many species exist and that some species are extinct; thats factual science. Based on these facts philosophical science steps in to try and complete the picture. The CREATION theory of origin is the perfect example of how much faith RELIGION requires. Let me ask you - has it ever been scientifically proven that Invisible Sky Daddy can or did spontaneously come into existence? Has it ever been scientifically proven that an Invisible Sky Daddy can or did create all species? No and No. The faith required to believe such fairy tales is huge.

    What has been proven, I think, is that "God" can adapt to different "interpretations". "God" has never been shown to exist except for in the minds of people; yet always remains the real "God". Ah, but what if we add in millions of years, and billions of people believe in this? Thats speculation my friend and is not factual science.

    By all means you Godists "keep the faith", but realise that your beliefs do take NOTHING BUT A RIDICULOUS AMOUNT OF "faith", and ANOTHER truck load of it at that.

    Reality does not ask you to believe that if you drop a hammer it will not fall everytime. It does not ask you to believe that 2+2 is not 4. Reality is not against true factual science. It can reveal what true factual science cannot touch, such as subjective feelings of love (for instance), but it does give you a roadmap to which you can determine truths, such as "Love is an emotion". But, that doesn't lessen its value. Truth questions everything, truth will lead you away from the Invisible Sky Daddy God if you follow it.

    Good day to you all.
     

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