ATHEISM Explained

Discussion in 'Agnosticism and Atheism' started by Libertine, Sep 17, 2005.

  1. Hikaru Zero

    Hikaru Zero Sylvan Paladin

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    Well, since you did find evidence that privative a can be used to mean "not," I guess I do have to concede that both of us have could have been correct. My opinion is still that its usage is not quite right (as the source you used only knew 3 years of Greek; I know 3 years of German, and German is FAR more similar to English, and I know I wouldn't be able to make such a distinction with a German word).

    That's kind of a bold thing to say, isn't it Libertine? When the evidence is with me, I won't admit any "wrongness," but at least now you have somewhat stable contradictory evidence. Your statement here kind of urks me; I didn't know you thought so low of me. .... very well then.

    I'm not changing my stance on atheism because of your source on the privative a (especially because my sources explicitly say that it does NOT mean "not" or "away" or "without"). However, I understand now how you can take the privative a to mean those things (even though I don't think the source is reliable enough to make that judgment), so we can at least agree to disagree now.

    And a note about your source: The author uses Ramsey's definition of "negative away" and then with his 3 years of Greek, says that it's to be taken as "negative not." I find that a bit fishy. But that's okay.
     
  2. Libertine

    Libertine Guru of Hedonopia

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    Good. I concede as well that you had a correct definition according to my own sources, thus we were both right or one of us has been deceived by our sources.

    I don't think so low of you. You just remind me a lot of me. But, now as I see you have, though reluctantly, agreed to at least admit we were both correct, I take the comment back and apologize to you for it.

    Agreed.

    I don't know how many years Ramsey had of Greek. I said I had three years. But, I wanted to use other sources in order to give you more credence as to what my view was other than me just saying so. I hope you could consider that an admirable trait.
     
  3. Hikaru Zero

    Hikaru Zero Sylvan Paladin

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    That was YOU who said you had 3 years? Okay, my mistake, I thought that was Ramsey saying he had 3 years of Greek. Nevermind what I said, then.

    So anyway ...

    *shakes your hand*

    Let's go raise some hell? =P
     
  4. Libertine

    Libertine Guru of Hedonopia

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    Sounds like a plan. :X
     
  5. Apples+Oranjes

    Apples+Oranjes Bekkasaur

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    Yay my two favorite hipforumers came to terms...somewhat :-D

    lmao, you guys are great... I applaud the both of you on your strong opinions, and knowledge ^_^
     
  6. Occam

    Occam Old bag of dreams

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    Hikky
    Balance && Harmony.

    Libertine
    Think for yourself. Question authority.

    Are not both needed to find wisdom?

    Occam
     
  7. Hikaru Zero

    Hikaru Zero Sylvan Paladin

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    ^_^

    Happy days, happy days ...
     
  8. Libertine

    Libertine Guru of Hedonopia

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    I like the middle one best.

    Very Libertinesque... ;)
     
  9. Hikaru Zero

    Hikaru Zero Sylvan Paladin

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    You mean, my signatures?
     
  10. Apples+Oranjes

    Apples+Oranjes Bekkasaur

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    all of them are hot.
     
  11. pabloman

    pabloman Member

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    I am a Catholic atheist.
    Explain that! You clever people
     
  12. thumontico

    thumontico Member

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  13. Apples+Oranjes

    Apples+Oranjes Bekkasaur

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    erm.
    no.
    !!!!!!
     
  14. Occam

    Occam Old bag of dreams

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    You believe in the virgin mary

    The immaculate misconception.

    Occam
     
  15. BlackGuardXIII

    BlackGuardXIII fera festiva

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    Either you are someone raised Catholic who has faith that God does not exist. Or, you are an atheist who is atheist in general, or has a universal view on atheism, or whose interest in atheism is broad in scope and covers many areas. That is of course using the original definition of catholic, which means a view which is universal, comprehensive, or broad in taste and sympathies.
     

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