Ask the Aliens to show up

Discussion in 'Random Thoughts' started by CandyCooler, Apr 15, 2010.

  1. ChronicTom

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    I have zero doubts that 'they' are already here.
     
  2. ChronicTom

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    I also have zero doubts there are cowards who instead of responding in a thread, use the rep system to try to make comments without sharing them.

     
  3. Xac

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    You're classic. I didn't know i was suppose to post all of my rep comments :rolleyes:.

    Anyway Tom, we can't all be as "brave" as you :rofl:
     
  4. ChronicTom

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    You are trying to use the rep system to comment on threads without exposing your comments to responses.

    Everytime you do so, I will return your neg rep and post your comments for all to see.
     
  5. deleted

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    Warp drive... Is warped, think about it..
    ...
     
  6. Xac

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    That sounds dandy Tom, but I must say, if you find it so cowardly to neg rep people, should you really sink to my level?

    And Tom, i don't mind if you neg rep me, even though mine is not disabled ;)

    But i do have one question, that perhaps in the spirit of your sense of "bravery" you might like to answer for me. How many times have I have i given you neg rep so far?
     
  7. MaryJBlaze

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    blah fuck it
     
  8. Michael Phelps

    Michael Phelps Am I being detained?

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    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ag44dRO8LEA"]YouTube- Regan's ALIEN speech to UN
     
  9. ChronicTom

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    I didn't say it was cowardly to use the rep system, I said to use rep comments to reply to a thread is cowardly.

    What does bravery have to do with me saying that was the first time?

    You rep comment was a reply to the subject being discussed in the thread.

    It is people using it like that which encourages me to keep it disabled. If you want to comment on something I say about a subject being discussed, great! Do so, in the thread where its being discussed.

    If you want to say, your reply was harsh and your an asshole, that I can respect as a rep comment.

    But to try to interject your opinon on a subject being discussed without doing it publically, is cowardly.
     
  10. Xac

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    I just figured if you think what i did was cowardly, than you think that there is something brave about talking on hipforums...

    Anyway, as you pointed out it was the first time i ever gave you neg rep, the reason i asked is because people might think i neg rep you all the time by the way you reacted.

    I didn't really think what i said was hurtful, but on the other hand, you do seem to find differing opinions offensive.
     
  11. guerillabedlam

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    I think that we think about this potential situation way too much from a human perspective. That's all we have so its hard not too, but i think we tend to limit expectations of alien visitors. I consider us animals, and even if you don't, you have to admit that we have an awful lot in common with animals. Alot of people seem to listen to Hollywood and think that aliens would come here with an agenda to eventually conquer, like Columbus coming to America or something. I think that's based on our own instincts. Realistically, the innate reason we kill most things is for food, secondarily for defense. I find it hard to believe that some creature that sufficiently survives by its own means would start trying to feast on foreign creatures (us) that could possibly be lethal to its being and survival. that sounds weird but I guess they would have to come from an earth like planet to view us as food or a possible threat. I rarely hear the idea of us viewing aliens as a potential food source brought up I think for this very reason.

    I also don't hold the view that aliens would like single us out among the rest of the earths animals. Outside of cars and other vehicles there is really nothing else we do that I think makes us stand out. We are talking about a completely foreign creature, and sure we have architecture, technology, and what not but I don't think aliens would necessarily assume we made that, or have any interest in it. I guess if they landed in a city it would be densely populated by humans but I find it just as likely they land in a jungle or ocean.

    Its interesting to contemplate but the whole idea of us having much interaction (especially like a war) with an alien species seems absurd to me.
     
  12. ChronicTom

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    I think any species sufficiently capable of travelling across the stars would recognize that power production, radio signals, satellites orbiting the earth and a space station are signs of a civilization. I'm pretty sure they would be able to notice all the artificial lights when they were approaching the planet (which would include the nighttime).

    As for them coming to eat us? Doubtful... to kill us? I think more then possible.

    If you were an advanced species that had a peaceful civilization, would you want to let humans off this planet?

    Stopping us from going further into space wouldn't be possible without killing a lot of us, or manipulating our own systems in such a fashion that we either wipe ourselves out, or at least keep setting ourselves back from spreading into the rest of the universe.

    Now if you were to reverse that and ask if humans would go to another planet and think it was okay to eat who or whatever was there... oh yeah, without a doubt... lol
     
  13. guerillabedlam

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    If they have the ability to transfer across stars I think their technology would be so vastly superior that it would be a larger gap of recognizing technology than of a cavemans club to the internet. They just might as easily recognize a moving satellite as a separate 'creature' and rely on something vastly different that doesn't necessarily pick up radio frequencies. Like I said regarding architechture and technology I see no reason for them not to assume lights and that stuff didnt 'grow ' from the earth, unless they actually hung out for awhile and interacted with us to see it being manipulated. Its like when you are in an airplane and you look down and you see towns and cities look like a nest or hive and cars look like ants, imagine a different/advanced creatures perspective on that.
     
  14. ChronicTom

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    But you're still on the assumption that these aliens are going to travel across the stars, and when they get here, they are going to randomly land somewhere, take a peak around and then leave judging us on a 5 minute examination.

    I realize that humans may do that, but I really think that its a case of you putting a human perspective on it, which as you say, doesn't make a lot of sense.

    Regardless of their forum or how far advanced they are, they aren't just going to pop into orbit, jump off, jump on and leave... They would sit back and use whatever sensors their advanced technology has to scan the planet before hand, and there is no way they would miss that 7 billion of the animals on the planet had gotten together and formed societies...

    This isn't even touching on the whole fact that as soon as they appear in sensor range, there is likely a good chance someone on earth is going to fire some type of weapon at them...

    Most likely involving bruce willis and jeff goldbloom.
     
  15. guerillabedlam

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    I never made the assumption they will be here for 5 minutes and leave? I figure that they may just as well land in the 3/4 of our planet covered in water and interact and study dolphins for awhile. I think that while we have a better chance than any other creature on this planet to interact with them it would still take a bit of 'luck'. You are still assuming we have some magnificent technology that would be able to pick up this object they came in.

    Shit we even have planes that other countries radars can't pick up.
     
  16. ChronicTom

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    The reason I said that they would be here for 5 minutes and leave, is because if they didn't, an airplane would fly over head and I'm pretty sure they are going to notice a huge metal object flying through the sky spewing out a trail miles long... or some other sign that technology exists that indicates some form of organized intelligence.

    Look at where we are in technology compared to where we would have to be in order to travel to planets outside our galaxy, and we are already searching the galaxy for any sign of other intelligence. Can you see us getting to where we could go to another planet and not doing everything in our power to find out what it was like before we landed on it and studied their equivelent of a cockroach while we ignored significant construction over the most visible part of the planet and objects the size of football fields roaring overhead?
     
  17. guerillabedlam

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    I already conceded the fact that cars and other vehicles would probably show a sign of intelligent creatures in my first post on this thread(top of the page). I just think we tend to view the situation like any other confrontation between humans.

    The reasons they would come could be so varied, something as simple as our planet being their cosmic rest stop, to your anthropological aliens, to war mongering flesh devouring creatures. I think its good to be wary of the possibilities that would effect our well being but i think there are numerous ideas that I explained here and ideas that are unexplored to justify them visiting our earth.
     
  18. ChronicTom

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    Oh, I never disagreed there are many reasons they would want to come here, and do believe that our planet has been visited many times over history.

    I just don't think that there is any likely scenario in which they wouldn't recognize us as an intelligent species.

    It wouldn't surprise me in the slightest to find out there was a whole galactic civilization that is currently keeping earth under quarantine from the rest precisely because they did recognize that we are an intelligent lifeform, and extremely dangerous in our current state of imbalanced advancement.
     
  19. stinkfoot

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    Perhaps the earth is a classroom terrarium on a quantum scale and the 4.54 billion years of earthly manifestation was actually one semester on the greater dimension... and the school janitor is coming...

    Bummer that the student who created the experiment (we'll call her God) only got a D- for the project.
     
  20. deleted

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    primates have a better chance to meet the aliens, lest they will not be asking a bunch of dumb questions. How did you cross space, whats the cure for cancer, why did you blow up the white house in Independence Day<some people think thats real)..
    Aliens couldn't be bothered since Terra does have Universities and the internet, all the information is there if you opened your minds to absorb it..:conehead:
     
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