Ask A Pedophile thread

Discussion in 'Love and Sex' started by NotAMonster, Jul 6, 2007.

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  1. its_des10e

    its_des10e Member

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    I'm in much agreement here. Just because people are born with an affliction doesn't mean they should embrace it.
     
  2. Libertine

    Libertine Guru of Hedonopia

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    Stop using Republican-think and stop trying to twist my words.

    No one is "justifying" anything.

    The question is, "If something is innate, how do we handle this in the most ethical way?"

    It's moral/philosophical/reasonable question.
     
  3. tommyhot

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    Get them professional help. Being attracted to children isn't normal. Period.

    Doesn't matter to me if they don't touch them or touch them, same thing AFAIC.
     
  4. dangermoose

    dangermoose Is a daddy

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    Tommy what you describe is a thought crime, a tool used by facist societies to advance their own agendas and persecute anyone for any reason. It is about the worst policy any societty can take and shows least amount of intelligence on the behalf of anyone who's willing to accept it or justify it. Only those who would persecute others and be immune to such a thing, or those who are slaves and brain washed by an ideological cause could ever support such a notion.

    For the record, libertine is my hero.
     
  5. lee123

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    if someone diddled my kids, i'd take their life
     
  6. tommyhot

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    And you SHOULD. Kudos!
     
  7. edyb123

    edyb123 Senior Member

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    OK.. most people will probably disagree with me but:

    1. There is no such thing as 'normal' or 'sick' or 'wrong' ..
    2. People have urges.. we can't help that.
    3. Just like the majority of the world have urges to take part in sexual activities with another human of above 16/18.. pedophiles have the urge to take part in activites with children..
    4. This is a result of the society the person lives in.. it is not 'wrong' or 'sick' in any sense other than that it is different to the majority of peoples urges..
    5. Pedophiles should be rehabilitated if it is in the interests of the majority of people.. because we live in a democracy.. and therefore naturaly, whatever is the majority view overules..
    6. The majority of people are hurt/angered etc when loved ones/children are molested such as in a pedophilia case.. (understandably) and therefore pedophilia is something that should not be encouraged in our society..
    7. Pedophiles should be given help to rid themselves of these urges in order for them to be able to live in society and be no real threat to children.
    8. Punishment without rehabilitation is illogical and animalistic.. things like the death penalty and long prison sentences take place because stupid people think that 'an eye for an eye' is fair..
    9. Pedophiles should be rehabilitated not sentenced to death.
    10. How fucking ignorant do you have to be to think that murdering someone is the solution to any kind of crime... so acting on natural (as far as the person is concerned) urges is a crime deserving of loss of life?

    The sad thing is that so many people have this cave man instinct to get revenge which is why america has the death penalty.

    Killing a pedophile for doing something that he/she got the urge to do is literaly the same as people killing a person for having over-age sex... the only difference is that the majority of people in the world don't have the urge to molest children.

    if your going to reply.. please do it politely none of this 'omfg! ur a sicko, i'd cut your balls of and kill you as well' stuff.
     
  8. tommyhot

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    It doesn't work. Just like the bullshit 30 day drug or alcohol so called "rehab" doesn't work. Ask Lindsay how it's working......

    30 days is no where's NEAR enough time to rehab someone from an addiction.
    The current method of rehabs are a COMPLETE FARCE. You don't need a college degree to ssee that. It's as plain as day.
     
  9. edyb123

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    They should be rehabilitated for as long as it takes.. even if that means life.
    But they should never be tortured.. deprived.. etc
     
  10. its_des10e

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    "The sad thing is that so many people have this cave man instinct to get revenge which is why america has the death penalty."

    The "cave man instinct" as you call it, is a parent's need to protect their child from someone who is looking to harm them. You're 18... if you don't have children or have children in your life who you love as if they were your own, then you don't know that instinct.

    Let's see you have your young daughter come to you one day and say that someone has touched her. Let you see the pain, confusion, shame, and hurt in your own child's face, and then you tell me that you don't want to seek revenge.

    I've been that child, and I know what damage it causes. And if I were ever that parent, don't think for one second that I wouldn't want revenge. An illness or not, if you act on your urges as a pedophile, you are going to suffer the consequences of what you did. Just like someone who chooses to have unprotected sex must deal with the consequences if they end up pregnant or with an STD. It's all about choice.
     
  11. goofydrummer

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    Your pedophile propaganda lacks much more validity than societies view of pedophiles, which you discredit.

    -and even if that is true, id like to see what studies indicate about people who are sexually attracted to childeren and their likliness to be a molester. Im sure its high up there.
     
  12. tommyhot

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    Let me guess, NAMBLA did the study.
     
  13. skip

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    Rolling Stone Magazine has an article entitled "Witch Hunt" in this month's issue (Aug 9, 2007). It details how the TV series "Catch A Predator" is indeed a witch hunt with dubious ethics.

    They mention some interesting stats about online predators...

    Despite Catch A Predator's claim that 50,000 predators are online at any moment, there were less than 2,900 arrests for online sexual offenses against minors in one year (study by University of New Hampshire), of which only 1,152 involved strangers contacting them thru the Internet, and HALF OF THESE were actually cops posing as kids.

    So imagine THAT, HALF OF ALL sexually related contacts between strangers and minors over the Internet are COPS looking to entrap adults....

    And since the vast majority of offenses involve either children over 12 or cops, this ongoing HYSTERIA is really not about PEDOPHILES at all (victims under 13), but rather hebophiles (or whatever they're called).

    So is this issue overblown OR WHAT?

    And the article claims, as do others, that all this attention to strangers distracts from the real problem: Family and acquaintances of children who are by far the biggest abusers of minors (sexually, physically and psychologically!)

    When will these abusers INCLUDING PARENTS become the focus of all this misdirected Hysteria?
     
  14. edyb123

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    Wrong.

    I did not say that it is a 'caveman instinct' to protect our children, i said that it is a 'caveman instinct' to seek revenge.

    The better person would simply want to stop the pedophile from striking again.. by imprisoning, and rehibilitating them and helping them to become the person that they have not had the chance to become in the past. (Something which you are lucky to not have had to deal with.)

    You say you would seek revenge on these people to protect your children.. this is imature behaviour.. something happens to your family so you would retaliate by perhaps taking away their life which is even worse than anything they would have done to your children!

    How can you pretend you are a caring person when you think its aceptable to cause considerable harm to others for something they have done to you? This would make you just as bad as them.

    Yes there is an instinct that kicks in when something like this happens.. to get revenge, but only the strong manage to overcome it, think things through and make a good decision.

    If you went out and caused harm to someone who harmed your children then you are actualy harming someone elses child.. you have become the person you hate so much.
     
  15. tommyhot

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    Hell no. ONE child is too many.
     
  16. Rayan

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    Sorry mate, I have ZERO tolerance for you, especially compared with other paedophiles. Looking at a child lustfully is, in my book, is in no way justifiable like you are trying to do.

    At least (most) other paedophiles have the least amount of dignity and accept that their desires are wrong instead of trying to openly justify it.

    Your sick, your wrong and your the biggest disgrace this world has ever seen. Remember this next time you look in the mirror.

    I hope this post doesn't get deleted - Free speech remember.
     
  17. tommyhot

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    For what it's worth I agree 100%.
     
  18. *°GhOsT°LyRiC°*

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    I can honestly say that i HAVE a pedophiliac family member. He has been caught numberous times with child pornography, and questionable quiet time with his little girl family members. But it never stopped. Now i have about 8 of us who get together to cry because of the pain that he has imprinted on thier lives forever because he was attracted to the young girls, and couldnt stop...MOST of us have actually developed problems later like, depression , very active in sex at an early age, flashbacks, panic attacks, anxiety, suicidal thoughts and attempts, several disorders, including, panic disorder, anxiety disorder, post tramatic stress disorder, and the psychatric problems suffered can go for longer and longer.

    NotaMonster, if you are attracted to girls, answer me this,.. WHAT AGE? how much younger? Why is the childhood fanstasy to be with one? and not with an older person or your age, why a child? TELL ME what is sexy about a child?
     
  19. skip

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    I'm fine with cops going after them when a crime has been committed, but witch hunts are so 17th century...
     
  20. tommyhot

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    Maybe they had the RIGHT idea.....
     
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