Ask A Pedophile thread

Discussion in 'Love and Sex' started by NotAMonster, Jul 6, 2007.

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  1. NotAMonster

    NotAMonster Member

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    I won't have a relationship with a minor until it's legal.
     
  2. Mushgirl

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    I, like most people, agree that pedophilia is not, in any way, a good thing. Especially when it results in rape - that is a horrible thing to do to anyone, let alone a relatively defenceless child. Child porn as well is really wrong - don't the people who look at it have a conscience? What about the kids who are used in the photographs? They'd be mentally scarred for life.
    But... I don't understand how a pedophile is meant to stop him/herself desiring children. Isn't it a bit like telling a heterosexual man to stop desiring women? Or a lesbian to stop desiring other women? This, though, is not in any way an argument for people who actually abuse children. I think that if a pedophile cannot help desiring children... well... that is not their fault. But if they actually act on their desire, they are as bad, if not much worse, than a rapist or other sex offender.

    I might have all my facts completely wrong, feel free to let me know. But that's how I see it.
     
  3. NotAMonster

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    Sex with a minor in itself is not automatically "evil".
    When it results in rape, as in force, yeah that's fucked up. First thing adults have to do is start educating their children about sex and love so they can make decisions for themselves. We already have Sex Ed in school. It's been well documented children do have an interest in exploring their sexuality, it's time to stop hiding information about sex from kids.
     
  4. Lady of the Freaks

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    wait...are you saying that you think parents should actively participate in setting up their kids in relationships with pedophiles? the only place i've ever heard of parents doing things like this is places like afghanistan where children are sold to pay debts.
     
  5. NotAMonster

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    I don't think parents should get to choose whom their child marries, let alone dates but I do support them having say in our relationship.
    It's important to understand that I don't wish to replace or compete with a parent. I respect their position as a primary caregiver and do not wish to undermine their influence on said child. I am willing to be honest and open with parents regarding my love of the child and am open to their involvement in our relationship in a manner that respects both their concerns as a parent as well as the wishes of the child.
     
  6. Lady of the Freaks

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    well, that's big of you, but i really don't think you're gonna get many takers for that proposition unless you're dealing with people who are so poor or so uncaring that they would exploit their child...and then it's gonna cost ya.
     
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    NotAMonster, what age child are you talking about here? 3 years on either side I could probably fathom and accept, but anything else...then you're just screwing up that child.
     
  8. its_des10e

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    Please define the word "child" for me. What age range are you talking about? And how many parents do you think will allow you to dat thier child?
     
  9. NotAMonster

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    I'm not going to PAY to be in a relationship with a kid. I'll be with her because I love her.

    My AOA(age of attraction) is about 10 and up.
     
  10. tigerlily

    tigerlily proud mama

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    so what happens when the child you're "with" gets older? do you ditch them for somebody younger? you honestly want to try to find a child to have a relationship with instead of trying to lead a normal life? are you attracted to ppl your own age at all, or only prepubescent girls?
     
  11. NotAMonster

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    You've proven you don't read my posts.

    And yes, I'm attracted to girls my age and have had girlfriends before. It's a stereotype that pedophiles can't "knack it" with people their own age.
     
  12. Lady of the Freaks

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    so...you're saying you would have intercourse with a 10 year old child if it were legal or safe or whatever?
     
  13. NotAMonster

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    I do not advocate penetrative sexual activity between pre-pubescent children and adults.

    As I understand it, there are many increased risks to girls who engage in sexual intercourse before they reach puberty. Firstly, especially in younger girls, the vagina often is simply not large enough to accomodate an adult penis and attempting to do so could cause serious internal damage to the girl. Secondly, the vaginal wall is much thinner before puberty, meaning that penetration with a penis or even a finger can cause it to tear. Thirdly, there is a higher risk in young girls of infection with the widespread human papilloma virus, some strains of which are directly linked to cervical cancer. Whilst there is a new vaccine against this virus and condom use is known to virtually negate the increased risk, this vaccine is not yet widely in use and we cannot assume that people engaging in penetrative sex with young girls (especially in commercial sex situations) are using condoms.

    My belief is that puberty is as clear a biological signal as any that the body is truly ready for intercourse. Whilst some (perhaps many) pre-pubescent girls’ bodies may be able to handle intercourse, virtually every pubescent girl’s body will be able. It is therefore useful as a threshold for consent in a legal context because it is verifiable and is not as arbitrary as age-based thresholds.

    There are many non-invasive forms of physical intimacy that can be shared and enjoyed by both parties in a relationship without causing any physical damage to either party.
     
  14. its_des10e

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    Okay, it's nice to know that you've done your research, but that doesn't really make a difference when you're siting the biological maturity of a child, and not the mental and/or emotional maturity, which is just as important in a sexual situation if not more so.

    Even if a child of 10 has reached puberty (and I've seen it happen...) she is in no way ready to take on the responsibility of a sexual relationship. And I don't think anyone below the age of seventeen or eighteen really is. There is too much involved, to much risk in the world today, and too many inexperienced "children" in this world having children of thier own.

    There is a reason why society views pedophilia with such disdain.... that being, whether it is a sickness or not, people see a threat when an impressionable, inexperienced, child is involved.

    Parents can do what they want, I suppose, but in most states there is such a things as statuatory rape, and any parents who put thier children in this situation could and should be held accountable as well. JMHO
     
  15. Lady of the Freaks

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    hmmm...well, actually puberty began for me at the age of 9, and i assure you there is no freakin way i was ready for any kind of sexual contact with an adult. actually, i just think you are wrong wrong wrong. have you seriously considered that possibility?
     
  16. NotAMonster

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    The thing is that back before there was women suffrage, people thought that it was twisted to think that women could vote, and people thought that it was twisted that minorities could vote or be counted as full citizens of their country. And so these perceptions of what is twisted and sick are a product of our own ethos at this moment in time. And what we have seen abolished over millenia is enormous. We don’t have gladiators fighting each other to the death, we don’t have public executions, in the United States at least, we don’t have people in the coliseum watching women being raped by animals. And these were all perfectly accepted debaucheries during the Roman empire, but we think it’s very twisted.

    See my above post.
     
  17. tigerlily

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    OK, here.

     
  19. lionman80

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    Once you post it, it isnt just in your head sicko!
     
  20. Lady of the Freaks

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    okay, this is circular logic...and actually you strengthened my case there, not your own. there was a time when children were routinely sold, traded and exploited. they were used for sex by anyone in a position to do so. things have changed and children are now protected by our society...maybe not perfectly, but there are laws in place that are meant to protect them from sexual exploitation.

    i get the feeling you are intellectualizing in an effort to justify your desires. the bottom line is, if you really care about a child you won't attempt to have sex with them until they reach adulthood. now, you can argue about when that occurs til the cows come home, but regardless...you need to wait until they are adult and can take responsibility for the decisions they make. you skipped right over that discussion when i attempted to initiate it. who is going to take responsibility for pregnancies, std's & other health problems that result from sexual contact. this is life-altering stuff and you aren't even addressing it.

    an unwanted pregnancy or a life-threatening std can ruin a young child's entire life. and your solution is...what? assuring everyone that you wouldn't do anything harmful? that's an empty promise that isn't even fulfilled in millions upon millions of adult lives as it is. there's no way you can guarantee it unless the parent was right there in the room watching after having you tested and kept in quarantine for 6 months before re-testing...and somehow i don't think that's what you had in mind. the parents have every right and responsibility to restrict sexual contact with their children on that basis alone, all 'moral' issues aside.

    i think you would do well to get your head out of the clouds and realize that this fantasy of yours just isn't workable in real life. stick to adults who are in a position to make an informed decision, and have the means to deal with the consequences of their decision. until someone can get a job and work to support a child or pay a medical bill, and is emotionally mature enough to deal with the attendant emotional fallout, you're just going to have to put up with the fact that parents have made them off limits to you.
     
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