As Long As Money Exists, The World Will Be An Evil Place

Author of the linked article leaves out the role of the US in ruthlessly crushing the labour movement, starting with Maggie's bum-boy, Ronnie, but continued subsequently by the ne'er-do-wells of both parties.

http://www.alternet.org/economy/robert-reich-number-one-way-us-workers-are-getting-shafted

 

it isn't money and it isn't the world, but it is ego, that has created money, and tries to make everything be about it.

and that goes back a lot further then the u.s., or even money.

the role of the u.s., in the lives of people living anywhere other then in the u.s., has, and continues to be, a more negative then positive one.

i would have to say the role of every ideology has been more negative then positive. especially what it has been used as an excuse for people killing or even hating each other.

when i say every, that doesn't mean i wish to trivialize the role of what is currently dominant. that is not my intention at all.

just that to be objective, we do have to recognize that it isn't alone.

 

The statement that the role in the lives of people living anywhere other than the us, has and continues to be, a more negative than positive one, is not an objective statement. If your intention was to be objective, you didn't succeed. Nor is your second statement about ideology an objective one. More negative than positive is not an objective measure, nor is especially.
The specific problem with your ideology is that it convinces you that you are being objective when you are not. There is no object called harm.

 

As long as I have no money,the world will be an evil place.

 

Money is a security. Nothing else

 

I like bitcoins too, and I will use them where I can as an alternative to fiat.

The problem with Bitcoin is that it is only an evolved implementation of currency. The fact that is still a form of currency doesnt solve the problem that sooner or later will have to be solved. ...And to solve that will require a great shift in thinking. the ultimate goal is to abolish currency, at least any implementation that resembles anything that we might refer to as currency today. I imagine that some won't let go easily, but ultimately currency and the very concept of will be unsustainable and it will die inevitably die out by no longer performing any useful function in society and will no longer have any place. the way I see it, better to abolish it sooner than later, but I imagine some will try to keep it around as long as possible, despite how unsustainable it becomes and it will only truly be abolished when we reach that point where it truly serves no useful function.

 

=) i dont think money makes the world evil. currency what ever it may be if its coins, paper, bottle caps or sea shells can be used negative and positive, again - i think its the consciousness behind the money spent that deterimines weather or not negative or positive. [KRS-One]
M-o-n-e-y, what you need to just get by
Money, honey, ain't it funny?
Money, people wanna die
It seems without money, people cry, people will lie
You cannot deny, without money you can't apply
For anything that catches your eye, I wonder why
The root of all evil, let me teach you, now who am I?
The MC, teachin' my people "Don't live that lie"
You got to get money, but don't let money get you, guy

I can break it down like whatever you want
Whatever you spend your money on strong, yo that's what you flaunt
Spend your money on these honeys, yo if that's what you want
Spend your money on attorneys if you're goin' to court
If I look around your neck I can see what you bought
What, you think you get respect? No, you takin' a short
Yo, you need the money, of course, you need it to live
(Yo, what you put your money on, Kris?) Yo, right on my kids

[MC LYte]
M-o-n-e-y, don't ask why. It IS the root of all evil
Though very necessary to your livelihood
It's all good when you got enough
Til enough ain't enough and you hit upon rough times
You make your money and I'll make mine
(Yo, we need the...) (Money!)

[KRS-One]
Don't get me wrong, mistakin' this song
Like money is not important - yes, it is, just be strong
It's the reason for the thievin' and that war goin'on
It's the reason that you seein' all these girls in their thong
It's the reason that the radio's on
It's the reason that you believe if you gotta work from sun-up 'til dawn
It's the cravings that connect you to that money you makin'
Your desire is the fire got you feelin' you slavin'

(Free yourself!) Money doesn't make you the man
(Be yourself!) A man gets his money in credit(?)

Ok, I'ma get this money, really, all day
But not to the point where Im goin' the wrong way
I'ma put my money down on rides and all that
Hook up the house so me and my spouse can fall back
Investing my knowledge way beyond college
Write books and fly hooks in my cottage

Cheese - Kris bling-blingin'? Yo, please!
Money is an energy that gets what I need
I can understand them cats that rap flossin' and frontin'
It's all good, they from the hood, never had nothin'
They just got they money and everything's sunny
Hear what I'm saying, they preyin', boy, and lookin for bunnies

[MC Lyte]
Did we floss what we bought
Forgetting that sharing is what we've been taught?
Cause this here gettin' money is an individual sport
Money can get me in to the same place where years ago
My bros and sisters with black skin
Were confined to the back door and the kitchen

[KRS-One]
Last verse, where your cash purse
Reach into your wallet, nothin' alloted, that hurts
Breath stinkin' you're thinkin', but can't afford Certs
Need the dollar and baby hollerin' - no work
I don't know how you gonna get the dough
You could become educated, you could become a ho
You could do both, that's like puttin' butter on toast
The bread is the knowledge, butter is what gets you that close

[MC Lyte]
Money is funny - how a piece of paper can make or break your very existence
Quick as it come, quick as it go - you better know about the ebb and the flow
You get money in droves, trick it on cars and blow
Throw dollars at black queens cause, for the dough they'll strip their clothes
And for the right amount of money
A king will pimp his queen into being a ho on a stroll
Life will always be hard when you choose to make money your god

 

sooner or later, even as a concept, it will become obsolete. there are several factors which will converge to bring this about. i'm not talking about religion though, nor ideology nor war as being directly involved in doing so.

 

The asymptotic irrelevance of money; output as a function of technology:



A is a coefficient representating technology, of the function (F), which is a function of capital of various types. Since the rate of growth in technology has been exponential over the past 6 or more dedaces (and in fact must be shown with a log scale on the Y-axis else the slope of the function appears to approach infinite very quickly): asymptotically we will end up with output as a function of technology: near this point money becomes an irrelevant and superfluous concept but will NOT limit the growth behavior of the function since money is principally used to purchase capital for the production of output (the cycle of production).

This phenomenon will probably start to take hold some time before the technological singularity, and will be true with near certainty afterward.

 

Nobody move! I've got this six shooter fully loaded, finger like an automatic 'bout to let it fucken go and take a buncha lives but I ain't leavin' 'til I get the door. Make the wrong move watch the shell casings hit the floor.
An outlaw on the open range and just like Jesse James I rob these fools for change. A psychopathic ombré with a price on my melon for stealin' money from bitches and sending spirits to heaven.
I'm on an all black horse and in an all black cap, my pistols laying bad luck just like an all black cat and I ain't playing wit yo motherfakos so empty out the drawers. Take all the money out the safe and I'll be out the fucken door.

 

"As Long As Money Exists, The World Will Be An Evil Place"
except "the world" isn't "an evil place" and "money" is only a distraction.
human belligerence is a problem though, and money is part of the mechanism that facilitates it being one.
this is not so much a religious or ideological problem, so much as it is a cultural one.

 

It is not money alone, which by itself,
is neither more less than any other tool,
and as such very nearly as innocent.

But trying to make everything have to be ABOUT money IS,
one of four factors,
which while harmful enough on their own,
in combination, screw everything up and keep it that way.

The other three are hatred of logic,
equating thoughtlessness with freedom,
and believing aggressiveness to be doing the world any favors.

(and i'm sorry to say, christianity and islam are equally guilty, of encouraging, whether or not intentionally, those other three)
(which is unfortunate, because the whole point of any religious belief is to encourage people to want to NOT screw everything up)

 

Meh, sorry guys I haven't gone through all the other posts.. I've been punting this point a lot recently so I saw the thread and felt obliged to chip in.

Money can be thought of as an extension of oxygen, inhale and exhale, income and outgoing. It's only real value is that it keeps us alive and able to indulge in various activities, much like oxygen is just there to keep our biology functioning. Excess is exchanged in order to sustain a broader ecology, which in turn sustains us. Perpetual cycle of growth and evolution.

There's nothing wrong with money in itself other than our personal relationship with the concept of finance and its surrounding emotions. What we deem right or wrong is based on comparisons we knowingly(or unknowingly) draw between different "tiers" of our social dynamic. The only thing getting in the way of the huge benefits Capitalism provides is a social retardation. Sorry to be the bearer of bad news