As above so below

Discussion in 'Christianity' started by thedope, Apr 10, 2010.

  1. drew5147

    drew5147 Dingledodie

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    There is nothing outside of the I AM.



    Nothing is as it seems.
     
  2. lunarverse

    lunarverse The Living End

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    Why then do you think it is that more people do not reflect their own light onto themselves? Or point it in the direction of that which they seek?
     
  3. drew5147

    drew5147 Dingledodie

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    Because they have not eyes to see, or have been otherwise diverted.


    "All who wander are not lost."
     
  4. thedope

    thedope glad attention Lifetime Supporter

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    I've never seen nothing but seems so.
     
  5. OlderWaterBrother

    OlderWaterBrother May you drink deeply Lifetime Supporter

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    That is my understanding, sorry you don't understand it.
     
  6. OlderWaterBrother

    OlderWaterBrother May you drink deeply Lifetime Supporter

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    And I answered it.
     
  7. OlderWaterBrother

    OlderWaterBrother May you drink deeply Lifetime Supporter

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    Again you disagree with what the Bible says.
     
  8. thedope

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    Evidently you have nothing to offer. Thank you anyway.
     
  9. OlderWaterBrother

    OlderWaterBrother May you drink deeply Lifetime Supporter

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    Why, do you want me to disagree with the Bible, like you do, just to have something "different" to offer? If you think agreeing with God and the Bible is having nothing to offer, then I have nothing to offer. :D
     
  10. neodude1212

    neodude1212 Senior Member

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    I guess I am of the belief that the only true call for enlightenment is one of silence.
     
  11. thedope

    thedope glad attention Lifetime Supporter

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    I do not want you to disagree with the bible so as to have something different to offer. I am suggesting to you that to go and learn what this means is quite different than reporting what Paul says about the futility of sacrifice. Jesus sent his disciples out and they reported back to him what they saw.
    I tell you this, If I was ever truly hungry, I hope you would give me something besides paper to eat.
     
  12. OlderWaterBrother

    OlderWaterBrother May you drink deeply Lifetime Supporter

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    I can see that you didn't really read it. Paul is not talking about the futility of sacrifice, he is talking about the importance of Jesus sacrifice.

    Hence when he comes into the world he says: “‘Sacrifice and offering you did not want, but you prepared a body for me. You did not approve of whole burnt offerings and sin [offering].’ Then I said, ‘Look! I am come (in the roll of the book it is written about me) to do your will, O God.’” After first saying: “You did not want nor did you approve of sacrifices and offerings and whole burnt offerings and sin [offering]”—[sacrifices] that are offered according to the Law— then he actually says: “Look! I am come to do your will.” He does away with what is first that he may establish what is second. By the said “will” we have been sanctified through the offering of the body of Jesus Christ once for all time.

    If you just simply let the Bible speak for itself, it will tell you things like what "I want mercy and not sacrifice", really means.
     
  13. thedope

    thedope glad attention Lifetime Supporter

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    I did read it. And again, in this instance I am telling you that to go and learn what this means is not the same as someone telling you what it means.
    Jesus did not say to sacrifice anything, nor did he say he was a sacrifice. Sacrifice was insufficient to teach you hence we have Jesus who demonstrated what kind of investment it took, the investment of your whole being, your love. Not your tamed behavior.
     
  14. thedope

    thedope glad attention Lifetime Supporter

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    Waterbrother, how many times does this passage say sacrifice is not wanted or needed? And here he is not to sacrifice anything but to do his will. You are interjecting a traditional treatment.
    Jesus says he is the ransom for many. Ransom is payment, not sacrifice. The way to repay your debt to the world is through forgiveness. Who are the many, those who keep his sayings.
     
  15. spexxx

    spexxx Member

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    3 weeks later... LOL
     
  16. thedope

    thedope glad attention Lifetime Supporter

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    Osmosis can be slow when dealing with dense objects.
     
  17. spexxx

    spexxx Member

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    Let it beee ohhh leettt it beeeeeee
     
  18. OlderWaterBrother

    OlderWaterBrother May you drink deeply Lifetime Supporter

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    Either way you've learned what it means. :rolleyes:
    I can't believe it, you've missed the entire reason God sent Jesus. :(
     
  19. OlderWaterBrother

    OlderWaterBrother May you drink deeply Lifetime Supporter

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    But what sacrifice is it talking about? Sacrifices that are offered according to the Law.
    Yes, to do God's will and God's will was for Jesus to sacrifice himself. When Peter told Jesus; "Be kind to yourself, Lord; you will not have this [destiny] at all." What did Jesus tell him?
    I'm just telling you what the Bible says about it.
    And what was that ransom? The sacrifice of his life.
    Without Jesus' sacrifice, we have no way to repay our debt.
    One does not keep his sayings by denying what the Bible says.
     
  20. thedope

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    Waterbrother, what is the difference between throwing a virgin into a volcano to appease the volcano god and crucifying the innocent to appease a vengeful God who must have his wage for sin.
    I tell you in content there is no difference at all. This cult of human sacrifice is vulgar. This cult of spilling blood, punishing blood, is barbaric and Jesus came to put a stop to it.
     

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