As above so below

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  1. lunarverse

    lunarverse The Living End

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    everything is everything. Being overtly cryptic is something else
     
  2. thedope

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    In terms of the absolute every thing else is an abstraction. What I am saying is plainly stated.
     
  3. lunarverse

    lunarverse The Living End

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    No one can ever really see what, if anything is absolute. Therefore how, in comparison, could everything else appear abstract? What is everything else a distorted or abstract version of?
     
  4. thedope

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    Reality is non local nor is it remote. There are no discreet systems in nature.
    What we perceive is a corridor of refraction, reflected light. You are absolutely real. You are not on your way to becoming real, However reality is in a constant state of becoming, it is always currently emergent.
     
  5. lunarverse

    lunarverse The Living End

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    Yes, but I am the center of my own reality, my reality is perceived from myself and outwards, and if that is in a constant state of becoming, than that would mean that I as well am in a constant state of becoming. As to whether or not that is becoming real, I don't know. What is real? One cannot possibly separate the 'real' from 'the non-real'.But I am perceiving my world which moves within itself, but does not move within something else, that I know of, as we can never really know what exists outside of our own reality, maybe nothing.
     
  6. thedope

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    Everything is real, however something is not everything.
    Nothing does not exist.
     
  7. Monkey Boy

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    ....or perhaps God.
     
  8. thedope

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    When I say constant state of becoming, I mean we are new creation in every moment.
     
  9. lunarverse

    lunarverse The Living End

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    Is everything not just an illusion falsly conceived by our senses which fool us at all times, our sense are greatly capable of error.
     
  10. lunarverse

    lunarverse The Living End

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    Ok, I understand what you meant now. I agree.
     
  11. lunarverse

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    perhaps yes.
     
  12. thedope

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    Do you regard yourself real or not? What is this existential angst?
     
  13. thedope

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    You are an agreeable sort.
     
  14. lunarverse

    lunarverse The Living End

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    I do consider myself to be an existentialist. And no, I do not consider myself to be real. I think (I won't use believe as I don't 'believe' in anything) that I am an illusion created by light and senses. An illusion that (say if one could see with perfect vision) is a branch, or version of, the one true 'thing' that is everything. A mass of 'stuff' which I consider to be in the vaguest sense, 'god'.
     
  15. lunarverse

    lunarverse The Living End

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    I agree with people when they present me with knowledge or things that seem logical to my mind.
     
  16. thedope

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    I identify as energy. It is the homo-centric perception that questions validity.
     
  17. machinist

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    if the female form is good is it god
     
  18. OlderWaterBrother

    OlderWaterBrother May you drink deeply Lifetime Supporter

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    As I pointed out I don't know you personally but as I said, I have love for all, thus I have love for you.

    Agape.
     
  19. thedope

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    Sorry, could you say that in English.
     
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    If you call it good, you have invoked goodness.
     

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