Argument to straight edges

So someone tries to be straight-edge and keep themselves free of as many outside chemicals and the like as possible. Weed may be awesome and all, but it does alter the mind and body, etc....no, it may not be bad...but that's not really the point. Most straight-edge folks I know are simply trying to live pure and without outside alteration, be it for better or worse.
Most of them are very behind legalizing weed and similair open-minded arguments....they simply made the decision not to use it for themselves. I don't see what's so wrong with that.

Granted some of them get a bit militaristic and forceful about spreading their lifestyle, but there's a sect of that in -every- sort of group out there. Those particular people are nimrods, but don't tear down all straight-edgers because of a few misinformed souls.

 

those people just haven't been able to overcome the brainwashing...

 

I don't care if people are straight edgers or not, do what you think is right. Whats really dumb is when people use what the government has told us to not use drugs. Ignorant people who really don't know what the hell there talking about, but only think they do because of what "the man" has told them. People should think freely, and live their life the way they want to.

 

This thread makes me embarassed to smoke pot. COMPLETELY embarassed. Whoever said that you need to walk down the street with a blunt in your mouth to get busted is a straight up idiot. Every 45 seconds someone gets popped for a pot related charge, these are people ranging from the guy standing on the corner trying to make enough cash to eat tonight, all the way to the wealthy business man who just picked up an Oz. to relax his head when he comes home from work for the rest of the week. Marijuana prohibition is not a joke: "According to the FBI's Uniform Crime Report, more than 734,000 individuals were arrested on marijuana charges in 2000. This number far exceeds the total number of arrestees for all violent crimes combined, including murder, rape, robbery, and aggravated assault. Eighty-eight percent of those arrested were charged with possession only. Convicted marijuana offenders are denied federal financial student aid, welfare, and food stamps, and may be removed from public housing. In many cases, those convicted are automatically stripped of their driving privileges, even if the offense is not driving related. In several states, marijuana offenders may receive maximum sentences of life in prison. The cost to the taxpayer of enforcing marijuana prohibition is staggering -- over $10 billion annually."

You dont have to be a fool to get caught by the cops... they may descriminate but their job is to bust anyone that puffs herb. So maybe if your under 18 and dont sell weed this means nothing to you, but once you become an adult simply smoking herb can land you in some pretty shitty legal situations. And if you dont have big bill$ for a good lawyer, you're screwed.

As far as the straight edge thing goes.. if done legitimately (no alcohol, pharms, tobacco) then you are doing amazing for your body and you are doing something far more punk than defying the government by saying fuck you to a drug fueled society. Most of my friends that are straight edge are also veggie or veagan and try there hardest to keep their body a natural place. To me that is admirable and they are completely open minded with my life choices which involve a handful of substances... a lot more open minded than a majority of the kids in this thread.

I personally think we should let kids live their lives.. whether or not they want to try it. And I think we should focus this resentment towards sXe kids to the government. After all what better way does the government have control on this generation than by turning us into apathetic stoners... if we let the smoke clear a bit, we can see that marijuana prohibition benefits the state and no one else. So why dont we fight that rather than some kid that doesnt want to fuck his lungs up?

 

i dont have a problem with straight edge kids as long as they aren't assholes to everyone who isnt. I thikn the lifestly is lame only because people are limiting their lives with rules and commitmen. Just do whatever the fuck you want when and how youwant to

 

dude my friend has that shirt!!!

 

lol i just ordered that shirt yesterday

 

The Clash, Sex Pistols, The Jam...

 

To each their own. We are Americans (most of us) and have the right to do whatever you want. Noone can tell us what to do.

 

Prohibition laws disagree with that statement...

You can do what you want, but you can risk jail for it, therefore sacraficing your freedom. Even for personal use drugs.

America, out of the Western countries i.e. Europe etc, is perhaps the least "free" when it comes to personal preferences and personal freedom.

 

Shaman I liked your post

i disagree completely with whoever said that comment about walking down the street with the blunt is the way you're gonna get caught. with how many arrests there are each year for weed that's clearly not the case at all!

i've been caught more than once too and i wasn't doing anything blatant. it's such a pain in the ass. and like shaman said, for those people that don't have money....that's a huge fucking problem.
luckily i had enough to afford a lawyer but even then it's a waste of time.

 

Lolz, so you're saying that to be a 'punk' you have to drink till you die? Wow, that'll change the world. You're so punk-core.

This thread's stupid. Why the hell do you have to agree with drugs? Contrary to popular belief, IT'S NOT DOING YOU GOOD. You can choose what you want to do with your life, and these guys have made that choice (even if they do tend to go back on it 90%).

I agree with Shaman. This thread really does give stoners a bad name.

 

i do too, really well put. this is why i think the karma system would really benefit the forums.

 

and when did i ever say that?

no i don't think that. if you had bothered to read my previous posts then you might just understand.

i'm not saying anything about drink and drugs themselves... thats personal preference whichever social class you are in. i'm talking about the ideology of punk, the disregard of authority, the anarchist nature.

what i'm trying to say is that if someone who was truly punk was against drugs, the reason isn't likely to be "they are against the law" because what the stood for was completely against the government and its laws.

the reason could be because they have witnessed drugs destroying people etc. but many straight edges use the law reason. which, if you research the punk movement, the law was definately not something that punks cared about.

this thread gives stoners a bad name? get over yourself. since when has there been a social group of stoners anyway? people who smoke weed come from all walks of life, all social backgrounds and it has nothing to do with there place in society.

and even if so... why is it giving a bad name? because we can have a debate and... disagree on something? jesus christ, i didn't realise that because you smoked weed we are therefore supposed to let everything be and not have a conversation unless it is all in agreement.

 

^^ okay, that post right there deserves applause

you just got served lol

 

Eh, not worth a reply. I can see where this is going.

 

mate you can admit if your fuckin misunderstood my original post, or if you can actually think you disagree with it, we are all quite capable of havin a debate without it gettin fucked up.

n to be honest i think it is worth a reply cos it adressed the question YOU posted... you got an answer and thats just plain rude to disreagrd it like that.

 

im rather sure u dont under stand punk then, punk is a very broad term. there are left and right wing punks, anarchist punks, socialst, Nazi, anarcho-syndacalist. it is more an actavist lifestly or extreemist. and even at that u cant specify. much like hippies there were actavist hippies, rocker hippies, stoner hippies, and so on.

im known as the straight edge kid, not that im against it or closed minded at all. i just feel no need to go out and get drunk and stoned, i find psychadelic drugs very interesting and will probably try them later on in life. i used to smoke cigs, personaly i can think of better ways to kill myself. i would like to stay cleen from drugs heavy drinking and sex till imout of high school, just to see if i can do it. fact of the matter is no one needs anyof the three and most people i know that do that shit get fucked over eventuly. either by getting cought or hurting themselves or others.i know one stoner that just does it recreationaly and hasent become addicted or got cought, although he drinks way to much.

i will drink, but only for flavor not to get drunk. my hole reasoning is that i can act stupid and "trip out" on my own, be it thought music/ chillness, or just doing somethign i enjoy. and most drugs straight up are bad for you (ACID). if and when i do drugs its only gunna be natural shit, liek shrooms and pot.

yes im a "Punk" and a "Hippie" and any other bull shit labels that apply to me.

 

like iv said for the last 2 years . Million people storm washington protesting to the death