Arguement for the existance of a deity

Discussion in 'Agnosticism and Atheism' started by Occam, Aug 29, 2005.

  1. soaringeagle

    soaringeagle Senior Member

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    hmm..no dont remember that 1..you mean from the original series?
     
  2. natural23

    natural23 Senior Member

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    Yeah from the original. It's the episode where the "robot", Nomad, floats about a meter off of the floor in the Enterprise; it changes Uhura into this little pyramidal shaped thingy; it states, "this unit is a mass of conflicting impulses, neutralize this unit" then this beam focuses from Nomad onto Uhura and 'Zap' there is only this little pyramid shape of 'chemicals' on the seat. I dig Uhura, I dig the old Star Trek. [​IMG]



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  3. soaringeagle

    soaringeagle Senior Member

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    lol nope never saw that 1..sounds inteesting though
     
  4. Kharakov

    Kharakov ShadowSpawn

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    Dude, that goddess with 8 hands needs me to grow another 7 cocks. Wait. I mean 8 more. She has a mouth. And was it a goddess? I forget.
     
  5. natural23

    natural23 Senior Member

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  6. natural23

    natural23 Senior Member

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    "It's a big galaxy Mister Scott"



    Nyota Uhura
     
  7. Occam

    Occam Old bag of dreams

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    David

    Thank you.

    So what where the three domains of LIFE [Archeae, Eukarya and Bacteria]
    That dna formed in...?
    Is not a domain of LIFE..A biological system?

    However...
    What has this to do with dna itself, being the basis for an arguement supporting the existance of 'a' conscious direction that allows dna to be?

    Occam
     
  8. Occam

    Occam Old bag of dreams

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    SoaringEagle

    This was important enough to you,, to actually write?
    why?

    Occam
     
  9. Applespark

    Applespark Ingredients:*Sugar*

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    I doubt it because dna is still material ( not attached to the mind)
     
  10. Burbot

    Burbot Dig my burdei

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    DNA does not cause life...the "fantastic" structure of DNA alone means nothing without the phospholipid bi-layer, and the Mitochondria, which have thier own DNA
     
  11. Occam

    Occam Old bag of dreams

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    Burbot

    Occam in fact was suggesting that the quality 'life' attached to DNA
    is not an issue.
    Virii are now considered by 'most' scientists as 'alive'.
    The definition, Life, like the thing itself, is mutable.

    Quite correct, everything is connected.
    In very complex ways...massively complex ways.

    The universe started as a cloud of expanding hydrogen[so the theory goes] And NOW...
    There is consciousness that observes the universe that birthed it.
    Quite a step...occam is told it is a result of random chance.

    You think so?

    Occam
     
  12. natural23

    natural23 Senior Member

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    Not random.
     
  13. Kharakov

    Kharakov ShadowSpawn

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    If you don't have adequate knowledge it might appear random.
     
  14. natural23

    natural23 Senior Member

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    Yes, :) .





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  15. Occam

    Occam Old bag of dreams

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    Kharakov

    Occam thinks that it might 'appear random' because too many take science and it's understanding too seriously.
    Shall we always fall in line with what the majority say?
    Yes, science reveals many truths.
    But in saying it cannot see a direction in reality.
    We must remember that it it might not have the eyes to do so.
    Or the wisdom.

    Both of which occam believes it does not have. Yet.
    For what our science calls understanding..

    More advanced science calls comparative ignorance.

    Occam
     
  16. BlackGuardXIII

    BlackGuardXIII fera festiva

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    I'll be impressed when man can make a blade of grass, said Thomas Edison, who was tipping his hat to God's vastly greater creative ability. To me, one drop of water, or one blade of grass holds enough mystery to support the existance of Spirit.
    But, although I believe in magic, miracles, angels, the power of prayer, and a immensely diverse and superfluous spirit world.... that does not convince me that a deity as defined by organized religion exists. I currently feel that there is likely some common thread that links all things together as one, and that this bond is spiritual, and eternal, and therefore more real than a gene, or a stone, or a galaxy, since all the things we can see will one day be gone...they are temporary. I feel spirit is the only true reality, and all matter is illusory, cuz it is all transigent. I don't 'know' any of this for sure. I just feel comfortable with my imperfect, incomplete, yet compelling conclusion that Spirit is real. It is unknowable, unexplainable, undefinable, and incomprehensible to our limited intellect. But very real, for me.
     
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