Are you Worried?

I say this over and over again. I'm not a paranoid conspiracy theorist, so I am not going to live my life as if the world will grind to a halt tomorrow. That's not to say that you and other "preppers" are in the wrong, but I feel like it is a lot of energy wasted out of fear.

I do think it is important to be able to sustain yourself, but I don't think it is important because "the end is nigh" - it's important because it is economical, healthier (in terms of gardens), and also reduce waste/pollution.

Save your banter about how other people aren't doing as good as you for someplace else. We don't need it.

You're just jealous.

 

there is a reason i stay the fuck out of the conspiracy forum here...because there is no conspiracy...nothing is ''rigged''..you're dreaming...on that point we can agree to disagree

however...i am curious as to what you are doing as you say ''prepare your family'' apolologies for the loose quote....are you saving water?food?

 

i disagree with you but would still totally bang you if given a chance

there is plenty plenty of caring people and caring ngo's in this world...you cannot condemn us all because you only see the bad in this world on the nightly news...i agree that we may be in for tough times but that is still to be seen

in ancient times the bubonic plague was a ''world threat'' but we overcame....polio?...we over came...aids patients no longer have a death sentence...i could go on...there is plenty of hope and room for faith in mankind

 

This.

The only way I could see us "condemned" is if everyone thought like you, malia.

We are far from the end...though for many I wish that were not the case...

 

Correct. Nothing is rigged. The proof is evident when you look at the economy and how it got to be so fantastic. Move along. Do not discuss the economy. There is nothing worg.

 

Fear is how our government keeps us in control.. if you fear for the future.. you've already lost

 

Its not that I think we are all going to kill each other off next year or something.

I'm saying that the overall feelings we have toward each other is shifting into a carelessness.

No one knows their neighbors anymore. Big business is destroying the "small town" feel.

People steal from each other left and right. I almost had my car stolen once by a kid I went to school with.

I know there are still caring people out there...I just feel like that population is slowly dwindling and within the next few generations, it'll be gone.

Its every man for himself these days.

I try my hardest to help as many people as I can. I do all of the charity events nearby. I'm an avid follower of the Occupy movement. I try so hard to shift the perspective of people to let them know that someone out there still cares about the well-being of society. But the more I help people, the more I see that no one cares about being helped. People are so comfortable in their misery these days.

I don't think we'll ever see the demise of this world, but I do think its inevitable. People are snapping left and right. Not to mention the over-population, people aren't treated as human beings anymore...its almost like "take a number" now. Doctors don't care about their patients. Bosses don't care about their employees. Everything is disposable...including people.

 

when i said it wouldn't happen here, i mean that it won't ever get to the point where the government starts imprisoning us by the masses for no apparent reason (i know innocent people get imprisoned now for stupid reasons, but at least there's reasons) nor would they start killing us on a mass scale, like in Germany. I just don't see how it would happen. People would stand up and fight, we've seen history, i'm sure we aren't stupid enough to let it repeat itself.

 

Well...we ARE pretty stupid, but you are right, it would never work out if they tried to kill us in the open.


Which is why conspirators believe in chemtrails causing disease and shit like that.

The real worry should be in pharmaceuticals that are not tested nearly enough for human consumption, the FDA approving wack medication, FDA endorsing Monsanto and other GMOs and people continuing to buy into unhealthy practices like smoking cigarettes at a sickening rate and eating fast food/HFCS

 

Dude..you mean the same revolution in which the masses slaughtered anyone who could be defined as aristocratic in any way? The same revolution that had no real direction, that only led to confusion and bloodshed, the one that eventually spawned the rise of. Napoleon, who conquered much of Europe?

Hmm sounds like the ultimate remedy.

When I studied the French revolution in school the only thing I got out of it was that it was ridiculous

This actually illustrates a point many are trying to make in this thread. Times, and people, have always been fucked up. The only reason the current era seems worse is because it belongs to us. We weren't there for the past so we romanticise it. in reality human nature hasn't changed. Some people are horrible. Some are absolutely amazing.

My mom once told me when she was pregnant with my big brother she spent her entire pregnancy in a panic. It was 1970, we were still at war and everyone was feeling disillusioned and hopeless. she was terrified to bring a child into the world when the world was such a horrible place. I feel the same way about my unborn son now. My brother grew up to become a good, generous soul.' He hasn't changed the world but he's made this corner of the world better for those that know him. That's all I hope for my son. That's all any of us can really hope for ourselves and those we love.

It's not all bad. There is a lot of beauty in the world.

 

I haven't said the "end is nigh" so stop saying that. I said we are headed in a dismal direction as in we will see a lot of changes, and no I'm not a conspiracy theorist, labeling me as one is just narrow minded. I say that people should prepare, with at least a plan for if communications go down or you can no longer use your dollar bills, not to banter that I am better off, for I am fearful of the health of my neighbors and loved ones. It seems that because I say that there is a lot of evidence for hardship in the future I am a conspiracy theorist, labeled as such with negative connotation.
If you want to keep the mindset that so called preppers are prepared to survive the apocalypse then I can see why you might think it's a silly thing to do. But it's simply getting essential things that you might not be able to get anymore if the dollar dies, or if something else tragic happens. If you feel comfortable with your self sustainability then good for you, but the majority of people have no backup plan, for if they can't get their food from Raley's any longer.

 

You are the type of person who goes into immediate denial if you are presented with something you don't agree with. I have said nothing that should offend you. And to address your statement that "nothing is rigged." It doesn't take much real world knowledge to recognize there is something very wrong with our nation. That's all I will say to you. And what I do with my family is my business.

 

You're right Canada wont be effected by worldwide economic disaster.

 

'Economic disaster' in the west means a stable economy (rather than a growing one) and 20% or so out of a job. It's got nothing to do with people not getting food or housing, or any kind of apocalypse. Governments want us to fear a low GDP, or reduced productivity in any way even if everyone is being fed, clothed and housed. As long as people aren't buying tonnes of shit they don't need, consuming at an insane level and productivity is at an absolute maximum the government, business and any every other analyst on the planet will call it a disaster. And it works. Folks like you are terrified of some 'apocalypse', meaning more productivity, more growth and more money to the elites in government and big business who shape your views.

 

it is sad that corporations are now in as much power as the government and the gov. dosnt seem to care enough to help the people that elected them.
however i am not worried one bit. they will have to keep things at least somewhat comfortable for the masses. (being that i dont need much this is ok with me when i dont think about how they are screwing us over) if they pushed far enough those demonstrations on wall st. would increase exponentially and become violent until they gave back what they have been taking all this time. they are smart enough to not let that happen so i think everything will be ok for a few more decades.

 

I agree with you, pens. If they tried to shorten our leashes, the masses would go wild.

 

Let's just review this NDAA Obama passed in secrecy, basically saying anyone who is a suspected terrorist in the United States can be detained indefinitely with no trial. This includes anyone disagreeing with the government or protesting. The list of frightening violations to our unalienable rights goes on. Look around you, the leash is not only tightened, they've been replaced with shock collars. They even want to sensor our most valuable tool for communications, the internet. Violations to freedom of speech involving detainment have occurred before in history, right before the first world war, that's interesting.

 

Wow, you basically just described the USA PATRIOT Act...how did that stop us?

The NDAA looks much less harsh than the Patriot Act was...

 

Is that really a reason to ignore such a violation of the bill of rights? That is just the major section of the NDAA, there are other parts of this law that should get Obama impeached immediately regardless of the blatant violation of almost if not all of the first 10 amendments.

 

how was it passed in secrecy? everyone knows about it. not sure what you mean?