UPDATE!! I found out it wasn't murder but suicide, the guy shot himself. Apparently it wasn't dying he was afraid of, it was living.
Josey: You be Ten Bears? Ten Bears: I am Ten Bears. Josey: I'm Josey Wales. Ten Bears: I have heard. You're the Gray Rider. You would not make peace with the Blue Coats. You may go in peace. Josey: I reckon not. Got nowhere to go. Ten Bears: Then you will die. Josey: I came here to die with you. Or live with you. Dying ain't so hard for men like you and me, it's living that's hard; when all you ever cared about has been butchered or raped. Governments don't live together, people live together. With governments you don't always get a fair word or a fair fight. Well I've come here to give you either one, or get either one from you. I came here like this so you'll know my word of death is true. And that my word of life is then true. The bear lives here, the wolf, the antelope, the Comanche. And so will we. Now, we'll only hunt what we need to live on, same as the Comanche does. And every spring when the grass turns green and the Comanche moves north, he can rest here in peace, butcher some of our cattle and jerk beef for the journey. The sign of the Comanche, that will be on our lodge. That's my word of life. Ten Bears: And your word of death? Josey: It's here in my pistols, there in your rifles. I'm here for either one. Ten Bears: These things you say we will have, we already have. Josey: That's true. I ain't promising you nothing extra. I'm just giving you life and you're giving me life. And I'm saying that men can live together without butchering one another. Ten Bears: It's sad that governments are chiefed by the double-tongues. There is iron in your word of death for all Comanche to see. And so there is iron in your words of life. No signed paper can hold the iron, it must come from men. The words of Ten Bears carries the same iron of life and death. It is good that warriors such as we meet in the struggle of life... or death. It shall be life. We all choose. Sometimes we choose poorly. My condolences on your loss. Zen
Man- How great is that flick- -The above is a great scene- - Back then, life and death were taken so differently. With sickness, or feuds, or just trying to get settled- your life could be gone in a moment. The natives had to deal with some form of death coming at them all the time, they were so spiritual they knew that death was just part of the cycle of life. The Josey,s of that time also had no illusions- death came early for many> for many reasons. This settlers had a spiritual-ness they lived with. What a time that must have been,huh??- - - I would guess more people fear death now then back then
The Fragility of human life has really been brought home to me since I started working with Quadrapalegics 2 years ago. I've lost 3 clients one to ALS and 2 to bladder infections. It has shown me how fragile the body we live in is. All it takes is one misstep and the next thing you know you are in a chair or dead. When I realised that I am going to die I decided to accept it. I also came to the conclusion that no one is truly afraid of death. They are afraid because they don't know what is going to happen afterward. One of my clients told me seeing one of his friends in his casket with a smile on his face like "He just did a fat rail of meth and was getting a blowjob" took away his fear of death. I really miss him sometimes. Peace Out, Rev J
I don't fear my death or the possibility for an afterlife at all, I would only fear to die slowly and painful. Seems like an unfortunate way to spend your last years.
Josey Wales: You're a bounty hunter? Bounty Hunter: It's a living. Josey Wales: Dying ain't much of a living.
No:i'm not afraid of death for i've been sriritually saved! Look into cremation & a simple service: It gets the job done & cost alot less! Johnathon
im not afraid of being dead, though im not looking farward to the act of dying, one of my worst fears is a heart attack, i'd rather be shot in the head or overdose or something.
I do not fear death but I do love to live. I find comfort in the fact that everything will still be here and still go on long after I have died. And once I'm dead you won't even care because I'm dead lol. So during the time I'm living, I will not fear the inevitable and the omnipresent because I know it's coming and I know it can strike at any moment (in the car, eating, taking a walk, etc) so why be in fear all the time when I can enjoy time I have.
we are beings of energy electrical,,spritual.. energy cannot be destroyed, only converted . the rest will take some rambling,, please xcuse. around late 80s i was at a dead show, totally strait{ya right.. no really}. anyway, during darkstar, i had 1 of the very few moments when i was able to shut off the internal dialoge, what i saw was something like a campfire, with a drum circle around it. in the middle wasnt a fire , but a bright triangle light.there were flames, and embers coming out of the fire, rising up to disapear into the sky. but there were also embers going into the fire, feeding it. i was hit with the certainty that the embers was awareness. now,in reflection,it could be symbolic of the whole group mind thing the dead could turn on.turns out the space after darkstar was mind left my body jam. then i read the last? book by carlos castenada, and couldnt help but notice the similarities. im not afraid of this body expiring.i think i will see that my campfire of cosmic concousness again, and dive into the flame.
Death is the ultimate trip but I'm not quite ready for it yet.It could be an interesting experience though - what more can I say?
I saw this thread pop up again- and I was thinking> Even though I have seen more death than the average bear when I was young, in a jungle 1/2 a world away, I really didnt think about it too much- it was more or less "when" it happened -I hoped it would be painless. Well now, 40 yrs later( and fighting yrs of guilt about that whole time) I have to at least think about it once in awhile* I do have a family ,and I would like to make it as easy as possible for them to deal with. It has become thinking of others more than thinking of myself. Hell , I can control (to a point) what my loved ones must do- -I can not control the how and when it comes for me. We have been decieved by many in power and authority in our lifetimes, I can no longer accept anything but what I know in myself to be true. Death does not frighten me, just piques my curiosity The thing that hasnt changed >- I still fear a painful ending- maybe because of long ago experiances, but other than that -the real fear is not there, its inevitable for all of us,, and I gotta figure that if there is any kind of afterlife (thats a whole different thread) it will be better than this one- - and dont get me wrong, I made a couple of detours- but all in all- I wouldnt change a thing** As in many of the posts Ive read, I dont think I have a lot of shit to sort out- - but pretty soon it would be a good idea to get all the legal stuff taken care of- it sounds and feels like a tough thing to do-but taken care of that stuff is important- probably in more ways than I think Anyway, for now " Let there be life"> Chief Ten Bears(Josey Wales)
Death - sometimes I think I would welcome it. Dying - I do worry about that. What if there is extended pain that Drs. are either unable to, or unwilling to control. I honestly think Oregon and assisted suicide are the humane and human way to go.