haha, ok i take in all luxemburgs decentralization idea's, and am a fan of lenin's revolutionary theory
yeah, of course, but i feel taht knowing your theory is integral. i cant believe we're discussing communism in the fascism section
Wow....i cannot believe that was me saying that so many months ago...and I legitimately thought the US was not a fascist state, boy I didn't think It would have gotten this bad...it's here boys and girls...the US is a fascist state
I posted this on Hippy.com about 3 or more years ago, and on the first page of this thread 2 years ago. Does ANY of this still apply to America? We're still uncovering these activities by our government, and I suspect that there are many more still secret. Hallmarks of a Fascist Regime By Skip Stone from Hippy.com One leader who has nearly absolute control of government, despite pretense otherwise. There is no effective opposition to his policies. All opposition held in check through various overt and covert means (although they go thru the motions of being an opposition). Limited public debate about policies. Control over media. Media only reports what government allows it to report. Covert Censorship. Rigged Elections Constant appeals to Patriotism with lots of flag waving. Flags and/or images of the Leader appear everywhere. Those who don't follow along are singled out and ridiculed. Vocal Opponents end up dead under mysterious circumstances (Like Martin Luther King, Bobby Kennedy, Paul Wellstone for example) Leader passes laws giving himself even more powers Controls the masses through Fear Mongering Scapegoating. Certain class of people blamed for the problems the leader faces, justifying new laws and military actions. Must have an ongoing war to keep people's minds off how fucked their own government is. No real policy to improve the lives of the average person. Leader surrounded only by trusted friends and business people who profit handsomely. Most actions favor insiders, friends and Corporate entities at the expense of the people. Laws that monitor and control business practices are removed. Constantly preaching morality to the masses (to cover their own immoral actions) Government involved in numerous illegal activities, all kept secret through various means. Violates, disrespects or refuses to agree to World Conventions on Human Rights, international norms of conduct, and other laws. All manner of excuses offered. Spy agencies given broad new powers and funding. Government increases covert activities against its own citizens. Citizens are urged to spy on citizens. Many civil liberties restricted or suspended. An incredible amount of blood is spilled, with no obvious benefit except to those in power. Does ANY of this sound familiar where you live? Then YOU'RE LIVING under Fascism! Some well known fascists: Hitler, Mussolini, Franco, Marcos, Saddam Hussein, Noriega, Suharto, Sukarno, Pinochet, Milosovich, Bush Please note at one time or another most of these people were either trained or supported by the US government and had numerous business dealings with US corporations.
I don't think I'm a fascist. It's a certainty that I am living under a fascists regime. It seems somedays I'm more a stranger in a strange land.
I dont agree with the definition in the original post so I cant exactly tell whether you and I are talking about the same thing when we use the term "fascist"
I do believe I am. Here's my timeline of political ideology: 13- Liberal 14- Communist 15- Communist 16- Socialist 17- Conservative 18- Conservative, Fascist Sympathiser 19- Fascist
No buddy, you have it wrong, you obviously know very little about Fascism, I do not support the United States, in near all areas. The United States is not Fascist, it's Liberal, the Republicans are very light Conservatives who give into liberalism eventually.
The United States is not Fascist, it's Liberal Wow. He not only drank the KoolAid, but he drank from the wrong vat.
Excuse me? Transvestites are allowed in many states to wander the streets, as normal civilians. Abortion is legal. Ethunasia ain't. The law system works to allow frgiveness to rapists who end up serving no more than 2 years on average, child molestors? The United States allows a state that's a quarter petefiles ( Utah ) to stand the way it is. I really could keep going but I'm not going to waste my time proving my point that the United States is liberal and any individuals that comes from a Socialist or Trully Conservative nation would tell you so.
Excuse me? Transvestites are allowed in many states to wander the streets, as normal civilians. They are normal civilians. I've known several of them in my lifetime, and the ones I have known were entirely normal in every way except gender identification. The idea of letting people live their lives freely as long as they harm no one else is not a liberal or conservative value, it's a human and American value. It's fine to be against transvestites or gays or whatever, but that tendency is a fascist one. Abortion is legal. Again, that's not a "liberal" issue, but is a female issue (though male rightwing assholes love to turn pompous and loudmouthed on that issue). I don't have a womb, so I certainly will not render an opinion on the matter. Ethunasia ain't. I think you're referring to the fact that euthanasia is still illegal, due primarily to the religious right. Even providing marijuana to someone with a terminal illness is a major crime here, thanks again to religous rightwing creeps. The law system works to allow frgiveness to rapists who end up serving no more than 2 years on average, child molestors? Citation, please. I agree that people who rape children (usually religious nutcases, it seems, priests in many cases) should get long prison sentences. I think they usually do, though of course religious institutions have long worked to protect child-rapers. The United States allows a state that's a quarter petefiles ( Utah ) to stand the way it is. I see nothing wrong with polygamy, polyandry, polyamory, group marriages, line marriages, gay marriages, etc. I strongly object to the tendency for religious conservatives to sexually molest children, whether Mormons or Catholics. When you have an invisible imaginary friend who can "forgive you" and "give you eternal life" no matter what horrors you bestow on others, it's not surprising. I really could keep going but I'm not going to waste my time proving my point that the United States is liberal Well, really you should first define your terms, because they've certainly changed. Conservatism once indicated a tendency to hold onto institutions and to resist change, while now it means "tear down all American values as quickly as possible by any means necessary." Liberals struggle just to keep the Constitution from being trashed, and we're in the midst of a major fascist movement, and we're not faring very well at all. and any individuals that comes from a Socialist or Trully Conservative nation would tell you so. Right now, religious fanatics run every branch of government, and they're determined to "bring on the End Times." The people advocating a world war to "bring Jesus back" are mainstream leaders in the US Congress, and in the largest mainstream churches. While Islamic fundamentalists are also a threat to world peace, they tend to act in relatively small ways- blow up a building here, take out a skyscraper there, blow up a bus somewhere else. But Christian fundamentalists are working to bring about Armageddon, and they've left tens of thousands of innocents dead on the streets in Iraq as they try to bring about the extinction of all of humanity.
What you mean like - "youre either for me or against me" and "think like I do or you're different to me"? Thats a bit fascist and I half suspect you are like some kind of in the closet fascist. with a big emphasis on closet
No, they are not, it's a fact they are born with a mental disfunction, such as homosexuals. Though homosexuals keep to themselves, while transvestites are just plain insane. I really hate repeating this, but if every woman decided to have an abortion, humanity would die, it's a woman's duty to bare children if she is able to. I'm not religious, now, if someone wants to die, let them. In Canada, the average prison term is 10 years, that's not much, also, you have a lot of hate it seems towards religious individuals, eh, not my problem. I do however think you're mistaken, there's a lot of liberal molestors too. I've watched many shows that have convesions of children who's father's raped them, usually analy, which is even worse, though rape is rape, and this all leading to usually Mormon families. I'm a fascist, and the U.S. has for many years been controlled by the idiotic media, which of course in turn has dulled the average American, your country's not run by fascist, but idiots, idiotic compared to the rest of the world, only reason U.S. keeps on top is of all teh hard work done by previously intelligent Presidents, also your build up of nuclear arms and military keeps you out of trouble. Here we go again about these relious freaks, whatever.
I think it's a bit of a stretch to call America fascist, though it is definitely more right wing than it was before Bush and before 9/11. There are plenty of nations which are much closer to fascism than USA-- look at South Korea. The racism is incredible, the culture is extremely homogenous and extremely conservative, most of the people are sheep and individuality is regarded as a negative quality, they have mandatory military service, homosexuality 'does not exist in Korea', foreigners are watched very closely and occasionally harassed by the police... need I go on? I'm not a big supporter of Bush, I think he's obnoxious and condescending... and I do think that the Iraq war has been about Americanizing the middle east, which is very much like Hitler invading Poland... the difference is, Bush is doing it for money and oil, and Hitler was doing it because he thought that Germany was destined to rule the world. So yeah, Bush isn't a fascist, he's a psychotic businessman.
Fascism has nothing to do with racial tension. Read the fascist doctrine, nazism in itself can not be acknowledged as an ideology at all, it was a political party, the NSDAP, in one country, Germany from the 1920s until the 1940s. It's liberal media that has created the image that fascism is nazis going around killing blacks and jews, and nazis never even killed blacks when they were in africa, organized anyway so that's something that's complete bull, I'm sorry, liberal u.s. media annoys me.
Anyone who really considers himself a fascist (at least in Europe) hates America and Americanization as much as anyone else. Cultural identity and all, see.
Yeah I don't liek America, but who outside of the States does? A majority of americans are one of the 3: FAT IDIOTS LIBERALS
