are vegatarians hypocrites?

do you believe we have souls? and if so why do animals and plants lack them? that sounds crazy to me, and arrogant.

but then again I believe the Earth has a soul so I guess I'm probably crazy to you.

but if you want a good reason not to eat meat and it's the best I've heard in my opinion is... it's a needless death.

 

Buddha never said it was wrong to eat meat. Not sure about the others though.

but from someone who believes in reincarnation, I do not believe people un-evolve into the plant and animal kingdom. so that argument holds no weight on me.

but of course I will be the first to say I could always be wrong.

 

when did humans become something other than animals?

 

i never said animals feel pain moonshyne did, i said if they do how do u know plants dont.
i dont believe they have souls cause god didnt breath his breath into them only man{genesis chapter 1}
i dont believe in denominations,jesus turned water into wine,yes,but he was a nazarite, which means from birth he couldent eat or drink anything from vines,touch dead carcasses,or cut his hair.
to the other questions yeall have to read all the posts, not one. most of u misquoted me. oh yeah other denominations call mine word of faith, like kenneth copeland but my pastor wears jeans, go to www.faithchurchstlouis.com if u really want to know what i am.

 

I eat meat.

I tried to be vegetarian several times throughout my life and have never done it well. Everytime I try to give up meat, I can no longer give blood because I go border line anemic. So, yes I eat meat. I thank the animals for giving thier life for me so that I may conitnue and share my blood with others.

Do plants feel pain? I've heard they do, that scientists have set a pwerfull microphone next to one and cut it and it "screamed". I wish I could find that.

It seems it is inevitable that we must eat to survive as all things do other than plants, who gain their energy from the sun. Perhaps what we need to do is just respect them more, buy freerange so that we no longer contribute to the mass slaughterings and abuses of large companies. I think I try doing this again.

 

because animals have nerve endings and a nervous system. plants don't have this. plants don't scream when you hang them from the ceiling.

i guess it's pointless to argue logic against something as illogical as religion, but i'd like to say, whether or not animals have 'souls' is debatable, but would you agree that your god made man 'stewards of the earth' ? (since we're in genesis...) a majority of the united states' meat comes from factory farms where animals are basically tortured from birth until death (remember that there are fish farms also...'wild' doesn't necessarily mean caught in the wild). that's not good stewardship. are these deaths necessary? no. ask yourself, would jesus eat a 'dead carcass' that came from a factory farm?



i hear the 'human superiority' argument a lot from religious types, especially xtians. it seems to me more like justification than anything else. it's easy to find some sort of sacred text to back up anything you want to do without feeling guilty about it. for instance, my neighbor. he's a heathen (and i believe him to be spiritually inferior), and the bible said i should kill him and (maybe?) take his daughers for my wives. i think i will do that today.

 

well I do not beive they are hypocrites!
why would they be? it's just that animals can seem more alive than vegetables!
but I'm not saying that we should stop eating meat!
personally I do eat meat and I'm not willing to give up on that habit, why should we stop eating meat just because we wanna protect animals?

 

oh, nevermind... lol

 

I've been a vegetarian for almost 25 years now. No meat, fish, or eggs.

The state of physical health I enjoy is the envy of all my friends. I became a vegetarian out of my own spiritual pursuits. The good health is a by-product of being in tune to what is around you. I'm not a health nut. I just pay attention and respect life.

At the day's end, I can sit down for supper knowing that no animals were harmed in the making of my meal.

Thats a pretty good feeling.



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EVERYBODYS a hypocrite man.

Just smile and have sex.

So lets all dance, get laid within our contradictrion of terms.

 

I've heard of the same study but cannot find it. Is it just a rumor? or is it real? I would very much like to know since I believe plants and the Earth feel pain. As much as we do.

 

I grew up on a cattle ranch, and I assure, Pain killers were used in those instances, brands are non existant (just basically pierce an ear with numbers on it which isn't painful for it), didn't slice off horns, and its death occurred in less than a second (a guillotine like thing, not a throat slicer), and they weren't confined to small spaces, mostly open pasture. We never, ever entered the veil industry though, since in almost any way you do veil it is inhumane, which is why I refuse to consume it. While the chicken industry is probably correct, most of those people were probably shut down after this video since most of these people treat their animals 100% terribly.

 

when we gained language, which scientist believe led to cognitional ability, though not proven.

of course we are still animals, but soo much more.

 

thats completely ridiculous. even if plants do feel pain, you need vocal chords to scream. and plants don't have vocal chords.

 

i know you think we are all connected(i believe so too) but i don't see how plants and earth could feel pain. you need a working nervous system to feel pain, and plants and earth don't have nervous systems. not even all humans/animals can feel pain, take a paraplegic for instance, they can not feel pain in their legs. this proves that you need a working nervous system to feel pain.

 

your acting as though pain is one thing. It is not. emotional pain, psychological, etc etc. there are many different variety's of pain and this nervous system excuse does little for me, since it doesn't take them into question.

I believe in love and love flows through all. When it is cut off there is nothing but pain in it's stead, or whatever minus love. Yes a belief, but one I want to either disprove or prove, or leave alone. Do you know all the levels of pain? and why should we? How do we know when life's vine is cut it does not bleed? but in a way we are not familiar...

answer me this.

 

And as for humans being "more" than animals, I completely disagree. We might have more developed (VOCAL) language, true. We might have a higher level of self-awareness, and with that more awareness and memory of our past, future, and mortality.

...But you (or at least I) cannot look at a herd or pack of ANY wild animal, or even interaction between dogs or cats or anything, and not know that they have intelligence and awareness, that they feel and love and communicate. As to whether they do so on as "advanced" a level as us, nobody but them can truly say. Even they can't really.

Crystal, you have posted before that you recognize the certain level of the unknown regarding the life and killing of plants for food. You have respect for the idea that plants can feel pain. So, if humans are more than animals, and plants may feel pain (as far as you're concerned, judging from some of your posts) as acutely as animals... why be veg at all? Not trying to be bitchy here, I'm just curious where and how you draw a line here.

Myself, personally, I honestly and truly don't think humans are any "more" than animals. Except maybe more savage, more brutal, and more conceited.

 

plants having vocal chords to express pain and the sensation of pain, wheather physical or mental, is one thing, but how are they connected? what if you feel pain and cannot express it. Yes they talked of a study, one I have been looking for that I believe is real, but that does not prove anything. What if they feel but cannot express?

You may not hear the Earth dying but it is.

 

humans r not animals, animals humans and plants r 3 different things, if animals r the same as us how come they dont evolve, or do anything? we evolve n0ot growing wings evolve gettin better technology and bettter ways to live but a hundred years from now plants and animals will be doing the same thing theyre doin now cause thats what they were created to do.