Are the Democrats back on track?

I'm glad they arrested the guy that threw chicken manure at the red hen restaraunt.

And I'm sorry that the employees that work there are out if work for what appears to be an indefinite period of time. I would hope the light bulb might be starting to go off.

Sadly some are simply dimmer than others.

 

Who's 'them' in your post, NotMyRealName? You suspect Stormountainman to have multiple personalities, or are you projecting his views/comments on a particular group?

 

Them is however many believe that the 2nd Amendment has something to do with hunting. I suspect some right wing gun owners feel that way for all I know. Ignorance isn't a singular party thing. The original statement made "Is there a constitutional right to hunt wild game in America?", would apply too all Americans. That statement doesn't quantify what right they were referring to. It was assumed to mean 2nd as the follow on sentence said "Then they wouldn't need to own guns at all". Unless there is some hidden meaning that the OP wished there be a new Constitutional Amendment added that guarantees the right to hunt wild animals. Even I can't fathom that being proposed in the statements, but hey, what do I know.

So to answer your question.

I am not a mental health professional. I couldn't begin to determine the diagnosis of a particular members mental health here. I'm just trying to stick with normally recognized English language sentences whenever possible.

 

You need to be aware that an amendment could be repealed in several ways. An amendment could be repealed during a constitutional convention and it could be repealed by an act of congress. If 34 states vote on a change it could come directly from a voter initiative. The days of arbitrary control by white people who think they are "Masters Of The Universe" as Jeff Sessions claims are nearly out the door.

 

I don't think that a few instances of people going too far completely invalidates protest as a phenomenon.

The problem is that it only takes one person to completely undermine the entire protest with tactics that end up being the focus, drowning out the actual message, at least in the media. It also doesn't help that you have 'journalists' dying to spin the story in whatever way best suits their own agenda.

I don't think anyone is 'stupid' for not getting your point-- you're being awfully vague. So we're just all supposed to lay low and not cause trouble because if we do, some nutcase is going to do something crazy? Or are you saying that it's bad when people take these things too far?

 

It still has nothing to do with hunting. Nice dodge though. Chrome rims?

 

I don't recall the post. Can't seem to find it either. Oh well

 

Hah, you actually knew that was a Toledo! Kinky!!!!!!

 

If the Democrats really are interested in winning back the White House then they better start worrying about what general election voters in states like Pennsylvania, Ohio, Michigan and Wisconsin give a damn about. I doubt taking away the 2nd amendment rights of hunters will play very well.

It's stuff like this that worries me. Democrats on the national level let themselves get mired in issues such as gay wedding cakes, men in drag using the women's room, lawless 'protestors' looting and burning down businesses...you know, all that important stuff that doesn't have anything to do with the average Joe in important swing states. And the average Joe, being average, isn't in a labor union either so forget that idea too.

I absolutely can't stand Donald Trump but I admit to taking a perverse pleasure from seeing him win the electoral college on election night. I don't blame Republicans, I blame the Democrats for his being in office. And if Roe v. Wade is overturned, creationism is taught in schools and Ten Commandments monuments start going up in front of our court houses it will be the Dems I blame.

I am an independent voter who leans Libertarian. If you're a Democratic primary voter I'm begging you, please nominate someone electable! If you can't beat someone as crass as Trump then you don't deserve to be in office.

 

Censoring, intolerant, religious, cry-bullying, self loathing, etc.

 

I don't blame the Democrats for Trump.
I blame the GOP and the people that elected him.

The GOP were immoral enough to run someone willing to tell the people exactly what they wanted to hear, no matter how unrealistic it was, no matter how much it contradicted something else that Trump had said. The media didn't focus on the issues, they focused on the sociopath who was saying unbelievably stupid and ignorant things, oblivious to just how ignorant/misled/deluded the voters were.

At no point did anyone say 'this person isn't playing by the rules', because there are no rules, and Trump didn't appear to be a threat... but it seems that once someone becomes the candidate, there are absolutely no standards that they can be held to. In such a contest, the politician unwilling to spin absurd fantasies to ignorant voters will always lose.

Hillary definitely would have won if the Comey letter hadn't lent some degree of truth to the 'crooked Hillary' line. People had been beaten down by how awful the entire campaign had been, and my guess is that that was enough to keep some of the moderates home. Hillary wasn't unelectable... but like all other candidates, she was vulnerable.

The Russian angle should have been far more prominent... but of course, the RWNJ news would have simply spun it into a conspiracy and their lunatic target market would have gone apeshit if Trump had lost.

 

This entire post demonstrates the root problem as far as Democrat leadership is concerned. They blame everyone but themselves for their woes. Brace yourself for 6 more years of Trump.

 

No, that's just me. I think the Democrats have acknowledged that Hillary wasn't the best candidate and that they need a new message. But the only reason for that is because they need to convince people to vote for them, not because the people knew what they were doing when they voted for Trump (or didn't vote for Hillary).

They need someone willing to treat Trump voters with the amount of respect they deserve... then they might get them on their side. And by that I mean they need to respect them less than they did in 2016.

 

It's so odd how everyone wants to tiptoe around the problems in American society and put the blame on the candidates themselves. It might not make someone popular to call out the misinformed/uninformed masses, but that doesn't mean it isn't accurate. I mean, it was an election-- the people are ultimately responsible for the result. Trump didn't force anyone to vote for him (though he may have intimidated voters), and Hillary didn't force anyone not to vote for her.

Unless the Russian interference actually did extend to vote tallies, then even their massive fake news efforts/hacking/Cambridge Analytica can't be completely to blame.

Nobody likes being called stupid... that's a large part of why it's so hard to address the problem.

 

Seems like I just heard that recently. Was deemed a mass shooter because I was happy for the 2nd Anendment.

So yeah it will be interesting.

And nobody on the left will get it when T gets re-elected. But but but we've been protesting. But but but we're the educated ones. But but but they just don't understand what's wrong with America. But but but.

Trump has done nothing more than activate a block of voters that the Dems did years ago. He is playing the hatred card better than they are right now. Like Obama just said this week. Stop whining you lost an election.

 

I don't follow this. What voters did democrats and Trump have in common? And how is Trump playing the hatred card?

As for Obama, I voted for him and had high hopes for constructive change. Instead, I am very disappointed and ashamed of him as a representative of the US. I'd prefer not to hear anything from Obama, but there's always a chance he'll see the error of his ways. It's like reading something you wrote a decade ago and barely recognizing it.

 

Personally it's because I know the vote does not matter. She was chosen Bernie had the majority. We have two right wing parties nothing left. I only voted once and I never will again unless there is a true socialist party. Not a Democrat who pretends to be socialist while still being right wing business.

 

Welcome to a second term for Trump! Personally, I see a difference.

 

How is Trump playing the hatred card? Check out his daily tweets!