are my buds ruined?

Discussion in 'Cannabis Pests and Problems' started by dirty worms, Dec 30, 2004.

  1. GuySmiley

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    ^^^^^Dude, your sig is ridiculous. You have fucked up a few threads wit it, please resize it?
     
  2. goldmund

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    That is definately NOT spidermites! With that close-up, and with all the curl, etc., you should be able to see their small webs at this stage of the game. However, you may have a slight spidermite infestation attacking a plact already weak for some other reason.

    Look at the discoloration and curl within the bud. That's not spidermites. I have never overfertilized with N during the flowering stage, so i don't know what that'd look like, but I suspect like with all N overdose, on any plant, that you would see the characteristic tip burns at the end/edges of the leaf, and perhaps less compact clusters.

    It looks to me like he has some rot goin' on inside there. Are there moldy patches, an orange dust present? Are the buds dry or sopping wet?

    I don't think that it is from proximity to the light either. There is no evidence of burn.

    Did you check for White flies? Check your roots, are they getting plenty of O2 in your hydro system (i am not a hydro grower either, but we all know they need plenty of aeration). Do the hairs look healthy, white and vibrant, or dull and droppy?

    Any problems with the stem? discoloration, rot?
     
  3. dirty worms

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    [​IMG]how do you tell if there is rot in the bud. basted on the info i gave in other posts how can i help my plant a plant get better soon with not a lo tof money like home remedys or inexpenceve stuff you buy at the store. and am i wasting my time or can my plant be saved. please help.
     
  4. dirty worms

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    I see no bugs at all. I looked close. the plants are kinda dry.So any way to make them less dry and have more moisture and bigger yield. I have a fan on them it is a two part fan. the fan can be switched to blow air out and or suck air in.I need away to get some moisture to my plant if that's what my plant needs. I spray my plant with water plane water.I don't know if the water helps or makes it worse.please help.look at the photo and tell me what I can do to bring my plant back to helthyness.
     
  5. dirty worms

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    it is kinda late in the flower cycle.so any info on a fixable problem or on how to help my plant get better. would be greatly thanked.
     
  6. tiedye0420

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    more out and or suck air in
     
  7. moondance

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    What nutes are you using and how much?
     
  8. goldmund

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    Is this the only plant with this problem? Is this your only plant? Is it only the cola that looks like that?
    If it's dry, did you kink the stem bending it down from the light? Again, check the roots, see if there is a problem down there.
    You will not usually see spidermites with the naked eye. You have to look for their tiny fiberous webs underneath the leaves an other small nooks and crannys.
    If it looks like it's getting worse, I would just cut the poor fella down, dry it out and figure out what's wrong. You might be able to salvage parts for smoke and cook down the rest into some strong butter. Be careful of the molds and fungus. I saw something that looked like that, but was accompanied by an orange dust. I am not sure if that's dangerous.
    Someone here must know more about this one. Where are the pros at?
     
  9. dirty worms

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    i can't look at the roots cuz they r in lava rocks. the roots r in my hydro system. you can buy lava rocks at a hydroponic store.

    the stems look fine just the bud area looks like that and some of the fan leafs too. did i kink the stem bending it down from the light? no.

    you saw something that mabe looked like mold,rot,fungi. but was accompanied by an orange dust. where was the orange dust at on the bud? how can i tell if it has mold,rot,fungi.i willtry to post better photos on here soon.

    i looked as close as i can but see no webing of spidermites. and what about the dry air in my plant.what can i do to help?
     
  10. goldmund

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    Anyone know anything about using water softeners to increase h20 intake? I know its not organic, but I don't think he cares at this point. Were you gone for a couple of days before this happened? What are you using for fertilizer? Lights?
    Again is this on one plant, a bunch of plants, is this your only plant?
    Next time you take a pic, carefully bend the clusters apart and try to peer into the middle of the bud. That's where you'll see better for fungus and mold.
     
  11. goldmund

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    Scratch that, most softners contain salts. I don't know dude. send us another pic, with some other affected parts, your set up, your house and street address, your girlfriends name and number. :) j/k just take as many as possible to give us more clues.
     
  12. dirty worms

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    [​IMG] [​IMG] these are the latest pic i have now.
    but i will get much beter later today.and how offen do i chang the water and fertilizer just wandering.
    and if the plant can't be fixed then can it be cut down an dryed and smked in this condition or is it to bad to dry and smoke.
     
  13. goldmund

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    Okay, I THINK i might know what is going on. Overfertilization. You're growing hydroponically, you haven't flushed your system, and you don't have a regular fertilization schedule. I haven't grown hydro, still, but I have read that you're supposed to completely flush out your system with fresh water every 2 weeks. This keeps dangerous levels of salts, concentrated minerals, etc. from building up in your reservoir.

    The burn and curl on the leaves mean that your Nitrogen levels are too high. To fix the problem, completely flush your system, your rocks, your rockwool and roots with copious amounts of lukewarm water. I don't know how close to harvest you are, but this might help.

    There should be directions on the nutrients telling you how much to add and when. The general rule of thumb is to add your Nitrogen fertalizer (N), should be the higher 1st number in the set of three (i.e. 5-1-1), during the first 2-4 weeks after your clones take root (depending on your lumens, your pot size [soil], and the time/yeild desired per plant at harvest). Soon before you tone your lights down to 12 hrs on/off, you should cut off, or balance out the N, and switch to a higher Phosphorus (P) level (the middle number) fertilizer. Don't overdue it! It is always better to underfertilize that to use too much.

    Also, have you been checking the pH of your water? I am assuming since you haven't changed your water, your pH will be extremely basic, which you can correct (in soil) with calcium.

    The problems you are having is why many people don't like hydro. So much can go wrong! Maybe next time switch to soil 'till you get it down better. It will still take you a couple of tries.

    Good luck. Chime in other growers out there. I don't know everything. Am I right?
     
  14. dirty worms

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    i have been flushing out the water every two weeks.andi have been cheching the ph as offen as passable. ps:i half to go work out now but i will chat more on this later and i will put some beter pics later. peace
     
  15. dirty worms

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    i am back.better pics soon.
     
  16. GuySmiley

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    This is what I told him 2 pages ago...:

    "You have used way too much N/overferted and that is why the flowering is being delayed and fucked up. The high N levels make the plant want to keep vegging although you have it in flower mode. That is why it is confused as to whether or not it should produce bud or more foliage"......GuySmiley
     
  17. dirty worms

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    what is the best way to flush out N. how much water do i use to flush out the extra N
     
  18. goldmund

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    Guy was right. I have never seen an overuse of N during flowering. I am used to seeing the leaves turn an extremely dark green, not the light yellow green in the pics, and being extremely perky, not droppy like they were.
    But I still think Guy is right. Then again, it might, at this point be a number of things.

    Oh, how long have they being flowering? Do you know anything about the strain? How long do they take to finish?
     
  19. cadcruzer

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    looks like magnesium defency too me leaf curl an brown patch's on leafs anyone else see same?
     
  20. goldmund

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    doesn't magnesium defecency usually show through a purpling of the stems?
     

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