Are Humans done evolving?

Discussion in 'Science and Technology' started by mr.morrison, Oct 16, 2007.

  1. youngjoshuatree

    youngjoshuatree Banned

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    I havent read through all the replys but heres my take on it.

    We will have recreated our selves as aliens in later generations. Maybe not all of us but im sure there will be some kinda of sergery to keep you from dieing or even ageing that intime will have its negitive side effects.

    Were messing with god. and because of it

    look what weve figured aliens are

    most of them dont have privates, possibly do to how immoral most of us are about of sexual activies. I see that people of future generations will soon be cursed by improper fornication.

    all this anti wrinkle stuff, im sure our skin will mutate because of it.
    Radiation
    living in space

    clones
    robots

    supar humans
    theres so much stuff that if you read into that seems farfechted if you remind yourself of where we are scientifically and research medically then it could blow your mind what could have happen by the end of this century.

    2099 might be the aliens weve made by corrupting our genes every ten years. were falling bad and we have so much money to do what ever we want. well not i but the govemernt.
    the military wonts you!?
     
  2. rambleON

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  3. Smitty25

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    Evolution is a never-ending process.
    Nothing is ever done evolving.
    However there are leaps in evolution. How exactly this takes place is unknown, but an example would be sentience.
    Hopefully some other leap occurs before we wipe ourselves out, but it's looking less and less likely unfortunately.
     
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  6. billyjean305

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    :)
     
  7. Utilitarian

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    yeah, we've done evolution, now it's time for us to take control over our evolution with genetic modification or "transhumanism" as some like to call it
     
  8. heywood floyd

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    NO, we are not done evolving, and saying that we are, or ever could be is utterly ridiculous.
     
  9. Marlyn

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    To say that Humans alone are done evolving is in itself an elitist concept. We, like nothing else on earth, can escape adaptation.
    Evolving is simply lifes way of making various organisms adapt to their environment. An example would include the difference between a horse and a giraff, like in the first post.
    The only reason the giraff has a long neck and the horse does not, is an environmental thing. Yes both the horse and giraff came from the same root gene in the same ancient animal species, but this is all they share in common.
    The giraffs neck is long, because in its environment, there is very little vegetation on the ground, thus they had to aquire a longer neck, to get to the trees. A horse has a limitless amount of food in most conditions, so they don't require a longer neck.

    If this seems confusing (and it might, I don't often make much sense) I will explain it backwards.

    In the beginning there was pangaea, once the land formed, vegetation grew and life followed it from the ocean to the land (remember, all life begins in water). Once it was on land there were many different habitats for the creatures and instead of staying on shore where they started, they roved, like all animals do.
    As we know the plates shift, and pangaea separated into continents, but the amount of time that this takes we all know is eons, giving life PLENTY of time to adapt to their environments.

    So here comes the explanation. Say we still have pangaea. This would mean that we have all of the original species (You know how in some biology textbooks they show you where cats and dogs came from?) on the same continent. As the continents pull apart slowly, (over many many years) You will find a noahs ark effect, in which you get an almost equal amount of differing species on each continent. Now all evolution had to do was wait for the plates to become the world we know today. In that course of time, because the plates are changing their location on the globe, and hence their position to the sun, the climates change, as do the plants, and as always, the animals followed. This is why we have seasonal birds in North America, in contrast to for example the Birds of Paradise in Madagascar.
     
  10. hafreed

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    We do not escape adaptation. Some may call what we will adapt to more arificial than natural, that is a debatable point. But we will evolve. Are evolving (think in really long time spans). It can take longer to see the changes in a "stable" environment (stable environment is debatable, but the forces of evolution are now at work. Even if we affect changes to ourselves, evolution will continue along side what we do. What will we be in a million years if we still exist? You don't think we will have adapted in many ways?
     
  11. Nope, not done. Unless we are unwise. There are so many different directions in which you could evolve, though. And does it ultimately matter which direction? Beauty is in the eye of the beholder, as they say. Some folks might be happier if we become some kind of sludge.
     
  12. Marlyn

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    Thanks for reiterating my statement hafreed.
     
  13. hafreed

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    Hi Marlyn, I have posted to this thread several times, always on the side that humans are not done evolving. I don't see how I reiterated your post, other than we are agreeing that humans will continue to adapt? Sorry if I offended in some way.
     
  14. hafreed

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    After reading my post again I thought maybe it was my use of the word "you" in, "What will we be in a million years if we still exist? You don't think we will have adapted in many ways? ". That was a question for posters that don't think humans are still evolving.
     
  15. Marlyn

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    I wasn't offended, I was thanking you. I guess I'm sorry I didn't read all 24 pages?
     
  16. Marlyn

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    Adding this might have helped: :D I forgot I was on a computer. I'm stoned.
     
  17. hafreed

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    I'm up to speed now. Just one of the shortcomings of internet posting. If we were across the table from each other I would have heard what you meant and we would have moved on to more interesting arguments.

    I'll go on and reiterate, so this post stays on the original topic.

    Evolution is typically a very long term prospect. Even "punctuated equilibrium" which is a relatively quick version (theory) of evolution, requires tens of thousands of years. Seems a long time in relation to a human life, but it is considered a short time in geological time. You can look over recorded human history and not see the evolution taking place, but that time span is much too short to see it. Rest assured it is occurring.
     
  18. Marlyn

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    If the life of the earth were a 12 hour clock face, our bipedal existance would have taken up roughly about 20 seconds. Our recorded existance, possibly about 5.
     

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