Are Americans Racist?

I find those terms useful in answering some questions and will put them to use when adequate. I might even say that the threads I've read 'hardly ever' remain on topic or result in achieving agreement between those with initially differing views. Maybe I should have used 'never'?

I see no relation to "our failure of reason" in a thread titled "Very Rude To Meet You". I only find purpose in posting if the thread topic title interests me.

Have you nothing to say in response to this threads topic "Are Americans Racist?"

 

Well if you only read the cover when someone suggests a book then you aren't going to learn much about the subject.
any way this is posted in this thread
Prejudicial treatment of groups is common world wide. The U.S. uncommonly has a guilty conscience about it that is projected world wide..

 

Well, I clicked on the link to the thread you suggested, read through the posts that had accumulated, and found nothing of interest to respond to. The title suggested no topic and it appears there is nothing to be learned from the posts that have accumulated. The purpose of a descriptive topic is to attract interest in discussing an issue, and a properly moderated thread would be one in which discussion would address the topic.

To a degree, I agree especially since you used the word 'groups'. I would word it differently, "A guilty conscience continues to be projected on the U.S.", and perhaps it is time we began to put it to rest. ALL persons have some prejudices, and that is something that exists beyond any borders. And not all prejudices are harmful. This threads topic employs the word 'racism', and I can honestly say that I don't know anyone personally who I would apply the word to. The word, in my opinion, more often than not is simply, but purposely and quite often productively put to misuse.

 

Well i won't be inviting you anymore to participate with me if you can't even quote me correctly The U.S. uncommonly has a guilty conscience about it that is projected world wide.. when all you had to do was copy and paste.This very lack of attention to detail is one of the things discussed in that other thread that you so thoroughly didn't peruse. You call yourself a thinker or social commentator? Perhaps not. i have been to many other countries and seen the racism which is actually more pronounced in places like india than in the us but it is more of an endemic character than a social wound like in the us. 'you don't even understand what you read, The U.S. uncommonly has a guilty conscience about it that is projected world wide..

 

If a thread title is something of interest, an invitation is unnecessary. Maybe I should have been more clear as what I was trying to say after "I would have worded it differently" was meant to be a quote of MY words, and how they would differ from your wording.

As for the other thread, I DID peruse each and every one of the 25 or more posts contained, and found no reason to become involved.

Have I called myself anything at all?

If you feel I didn't understand your words, "The U.S. uncommonly has a guilty conscience about it that is projected world wide.. ", please explain where it is you feel that I misunderstand. The quote "A guilty conscience continues to be projected on the U.S." was to show how I thought it should have been written. Do you have a guilty conscience? I do not.

Wounds will heal much more quickly and with less chance of infection if you don't continually pick at the scabs.

 

I have a guilty conscience about a lot of things. Perhaps it means I'm neurotic, not racist.

 

You found no reason to be involved because you didn't review the movie. the comments become more relevant when you see what is being talked about. Regardless I cannot believe you can't see the fundamental difference between us having a guilty conscious which is projected world wide and a guilty conscience that continues to be projected on to the us
The projection is the complete opposite direction from what I wrote. What I mean about being projected on the world is that the us goes on preaching about human rights to the rest of the world. You haven't called yourself anything but accurate when you are not.

 

If your comments from the mentioned link, below relate to the content of the movie then I would prefer to remain uninvolved. I might add that "Mind Trips" and "Random Thoughts" doesn't really grab my attention to begin with.

#10 - "How about your house is on fire. I think you are rude. i will leave you to execute sentence"
#11 - "90 seconds. How many breaths is that Jo King?"
#12 - "makes you impotent"
"I've had patience with you for years."
#13 - "can't figure out how"
#18 - "You are in luck then, it is a pointed and exceedingly intelligent documentary"
"go ahead and click your bic"
#21 - "you did what?"
#23 - "what planet are you on"
"the world is on fire"
#26 - "Being a logician is what mckenna suggests."
"Being able to construct an axiomatic reason stream."
"It is kind of like math as you weed out the inconsistencies in a statements premises."


That's correct, it was my intent to project opposite from what you had wrote.


"You haven't called yourself anything but accurate when you are not."
We obviously have differing views. My views are an accurate description of life within the environments in which I have lived. They may differ in many ways from what you have experienced.

I don't see Americans as racists, but more divided on political issues than anything else. If you wish to discuss issues other than that of this threads topic, start a new thread(s) and if one catches my attention I may join in.

 

Young Brown like so many of his peers are touted to be such wonderful, talented, gifted and loving people. But so what. A mother cobra watches out for and will defend its offspring while it incubates the eggs too. I am tired of hearing of how the young turd, like so many of the other young turds are portrayed as anything but what they actually were. But then I guess people have to try to paint that picture in regards to blacks, because the truth only serves to promote the stereotypes and thoughts that so many already hold. Believe this to be mean, racist or whatever you wish. I could not care any less. To say that a skunk smells bad is not being mean or bigoted about skunks. It is merely being honest. At least you have to have a bit of compassion for the skunk, for it has no choice in the matter of how it smells. People have the ability to decide what they will do and how they will do it. Young blow away Brown made his choices and they brought about reactions that any moron should be able to anticipate. Give sympathy and pity to those who deserve it. Do not waste it on the Browns of the world. For that is all it will be, a waste.

 

time to grow a real pair or they will take over

 

Indie

It seems to me that a certain degree of Social Darwinist thinking can colour how the situation is seen and the kind of responses given.

If you have a tendency to see peoples social and economic condition as being a ‘natural’ outcome of their abilities, intelligence and work ethics [even their morals] then it could colour how you see such people, and if that socio-economic group is predominantly made up of a certain ethnic group then it could result in something like racism it not actual racism.

I mean for historical reasons black households have traditionally had some of the lowest median incomes in America according to the US census, it could be very easy if you had a Social Darwinist bent to see this and conclude that this was due to black people being lazy, more criminally minded [street crime is more often done my lower economic classes and often involves violence] and can even come to see them as less intelligent than the honest, brighter and harder working people further up the economic tree, who happen to be more white.

As said such thinking could colour the response to the issue in many ways that could be seen by those on the receiving end as looking a lot like racism.

Seen as criminally minded and violent there could be an acceptance of them being more watched and searched and since they’re presumed to be more dangerous then why shouldn’t the police and armed citizens take appropriate precautions in any confrontation (a shoot first ask questions later mentality).

Seen as lazy, right wing and mainly white politician’s call for their benefits to be cut and such people might even think what’s the point in spending resources on educating ‘them’ when they could go to those better off and coincidentally whiter children that are more likely to benefit from it.

Now I’m sure right wingers will claim that they are not racist and not targeting any ethnic group, but many do seem to base their ideas on rather Social Darwinist thinking and when the group that does seem to be targeted always seems to include certain ethic groups then it’s not surprising that some might see it as behaviour based in racism.

 

Ever heard what he said after he did that?(signed Civil Rights Bill) He said, he would have those niggers voting Democratic for the next 200 years.

 

Yeah , he shouldve been more delicate , ,but so far ,since that time, he,s been right, ,most brown and black people in this country have voted democratic- - Johnson did a lot of great things to help civil rights along,,even though a lot of what he did was self-serving,he still made changes

 

I see the game you're playing: "If I can find anything bad that the guy you like ever said or did in his lifetime, that discredits everything he ever did." It doesn't work.

 

Not necessarily... Some hate everybody equally.

 

In other countries people say Americans see the world in racial terms. That means they see evidence from the way Americans act that indicates Americans UNDERSTAND things in racial ways. In the time that I spent in other countries, I also noticed that they were also racially and Jingoistically sensitive about Americans in their country. I think it is a human condition. Just because you notice someone is Korean it does not logically follow that you dislike Koreans. The other person is Korean and that's all there is to it.

 

Remember that the motive of political gain instead of honest concern has put the blacks in the pocket of Democrats. And has determined their fate. It is never the man when discussing race, it is about the group. The damage done to accountability and personal responsibility is legendary.

 

Motives of politicians are never good, and no black leader ever said that they only wanted equal rights if they could get them through some kind of "pure" political move. Politics is a dirty business. If we were waiting for "nice" politicians to get things done, we would still have slavery.

 

We still have slavery, just not here, unless you consider a government dependent voting bloc slavery.

 

It appears to both work and be applied extensively by Democrats/Left against Republicans/Right.