Are Americans Racist?

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  1. humanbeaing

    humanbeaing see you in paradise! HipForums Supporter

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    I think each persons brain regardless of race starts out equal and has the same chance at high intelligence.
     
  2. thedope

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    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UZqx0rNMyt0
     
  3. Individual

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    Dope,

    Apples are apples and oranges are oranges.

    If you feel you have a point to make, then state it. I'm not interested in wasting time looking at youtube videos.
     
  4. thedope

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    Dope,

    Apples are apples and oranges are oranges.
    what is your butt for
    To but in between
     
  5. Individual

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    If you have nothing intelligent to say, I find no reason to continue responding.
     
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  6. Eleven

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    Is anyone ever bold enough to debate the opposite notion: the USA is among the least racist. A Korean American friend told me Asian societies have no concept of equality of opportunity, and that in places such as China, one must be a member of one or more of several powerful families. A Bangladeshi friend is critical of much US foreign policy, but tells me the equality of opportunity he sees here is impressive.

    England has its caste. Much of Europe is tribal or clannish, especially Southern Italy. In Russia, being dark-skinned can get one beaten, more so than in the USA.

    I say, recognize where we have room for improvement, but don't be a whiney complainer, always seeing the bad.
     
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  7. Eleven

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    Justbreath101,
    I don't think science will back up your statement. To some degree, according to twin studies, intelligence can be bred for with clockwork-like regularity. Now, some things are still mysterious, such as how anyone creates a story or song. However, general intelligence, reading, math, etc., is definitely based in large part on genes.
     
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  8. thedope

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    in·tel·li·gence

    inˈteləjəns/

    noun



    1. 1.

      the ability to acquire and apply knowledge and skills


      Let us see you demonstrate intelligence please?
      Here is my reason what is yours?
      Seeing no reason doesn't count as reason





     
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  9. Individual

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    a·bil·i·ty
    əˈbilədē/
    noun
    noun: ability; plural noun: abilities
    1.
    possession of the means or skill to do something.

    You continue to demonstrate a lack of the above.

    Think about what you wrote, "Seeing no reason doesn't count as reason".


    rea·son
    ˈrēzən/
    noun
    noun: reason; plural noun: reasons
    1.
    a cause, explanation, or justification for an action or event.

    If you wish to continue with such inane posting, consider it to be the reason I will put you on my ignore list.


    in·ane
    iˈnān/
    adjective
    adjective: inane
    silly; stupid.

    LAST CHANCE
     
  10. thedope

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    you are parsing the definition incorrectly we are not defining ability but intelligence. the intellect is an ability. It's ability is the ability to acquire knowledge or understanding of the thing we examine.

    in other words we figure things out
    as we figure things out we become intelligent or knowing on the issue
    because of course we figured it out.

    I only challenge you because our general ability to communicate meaningfully across the globe is obviously in a shambles as nobody can settle on the fact that we all live intimately connected in a world we cannot get away from and we think we have to protect ourselves from one another when every single one of us has family and are familiar with family and on that basis we have reason to be concerned that we give our finest attention to each. Often times things are misinterpreted if we do not give high respect for the validity of of our own statements, i.e. true to our word. In this instance true to our word does not mean consistent with things we promise but correct in statement of fact or a true comparison.which means consistent or truly vectored premise. For example If you say hardly ever, that is not a hard length of time. So right out of the the gate the statement contains assumptions that are not accounted for and a person only gets a shady sense of what you are saying and therefor the proportions he represents to you. We find our selves shadow boxing with each other and not really hitting home with the things that are important about the very ability to communicate.
    Thank you for indulging me
     
  11. Individual

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    Noting where I have boldened and italicized:
    1. I disagree that we ALL live intimately connected, although with some we do. You and I, for example, are not intimately connected in any way at all. Perhaps you might be an employee of a company which produces a product that I use, in which case using a most extreme definition it could be said that indirectly we momentarily may have had a form of connection.
    in·ti·mate1
    ˈin(t)əmət/
    adjective
    adjective: intimate
    1.
    closely acquainted; familiar, close.

    2. Hardly ever is not used as a measure of time, but has a clear meaning as defined below and if a length of time is needed for clarity it would be added.
    One could say "I hardly ever eat sweets." - A length of time would not be implied or needed.
    Or, one could say "I hardly ever go out between midnight and 6 AM." - In that example a length of time is included, and 'hardly ever' could be replaced with other words such as 'very seldom', 'very rarely', 'infrequently' for example, making it clear that there are exceptions when I might go out between midnight and 6 AM, but they are not often.

    hardly ever
    phrase of hardly
    1.
    very rarely.



    I probably have to take much greater care in choosing the words I use to communicate with as I have to deal with several languages having multiple dialects on a daily basis, often requiring me to go to great length to define an English word to make some form of sense when no equivalent word exists in the language of the person(s) with whom I am trying to communicate. After a couple of decades of 'hardly ever, seldom, rarely, infrequently' speaking or hearing English language with others who understand it, I often find myself having to consult the dictionary to find a word I might be groping for to convey something more clearly.

    And you are very welcome.
     
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  12. junglejack

    junglejack aiko aiko

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    Date: 1/16/1988
    Quote: "The black is a better athlete to begin with because he's been bred to be that way, because of his high thighs and big thighs that goes up into his back, and they can jump higher and run faster because of their bigger thighs and he's bred to be the better athlete because this goes back all the way to the Civil War when during the slave trade...the slave owner would breed his big black to his big woman so that he could have a big black kid."
    Who said it: Jimmy the Greek
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    Comment made by a famous sports broadcaster 27 years ago. I remember at the time ,he had a lot of support for what was consider a "history lesson"- However the ignorance of using a major forum to spew these insensitive remarks cost him his career, which he was never able to resurrect. You would think high profile people would have took the hint- but in the last 27 years, comments from media people from radio guys Don Imus,and Rush Linbaugh to others (both black and white) have kept these racial undertones alive. Yeah ,for the most part I think racism is learned.When you have "so-called"
    celebrities speaking like this to millions of viewers or listeners of young people how in the world are we supposed to move foreword
     
  13. junglejack

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    Date: 1/16/1988
    Quote: "The black is a better athlete to begin with because he's been bred to be that way, because of his high thighs and big thighs that goes up into his back, and they can jump higher and run faster because of their bigger thighs and he's bred to be the better athlete because this goes back all the way to the Civil War when during the slave trade...the slave owner would breed his big black to his big woman so that he could have a big black kid."
    Who said it: Jimmy the Greek
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    Comment made by a famous sports broadcaster 27 years ago. I remember at the time ,he had a lot of support for what was consider a "history lesson"- However the ignorance of using a major forum to spew these insensitive remarks cost him his career, which he was never able to resurrect. You would think high profile people would have took the hint- but in the last 27 years, comments from media people from radio guys Don Imus,and Rush Linbaugh to others (both black and white) have kept these racial undertones alive. Yeah ,for the most part I think racism is learned.When you have "so-called"
    celebrities speaking like this to millions of viewers or listeners of young people how in the world are we supposed to move foreword
     
  14. thedope

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    I used the term intimate in terms of our symbiotic relationship with our .environment, that is in ecological terms. We are in intimate contact for example in the fact that we all breath the same atmosphere and you can't separate out the specific volume of air in an exhalation or an inhalation from the rest of the ambient atmosphere. So belief doesn't enter at that level, understanding that the word intimate can mean close ties or simply to be familiar with. As far as hardly ever or rarely they are not precise terms that are not particularly useful in determining exactly the instances or the precise time frame involved however there is another word that accomplishes the same task with far more accuracy and that is the occasionally, i.e. depending on the occasion and from this we have a reference centered around what actually does occur. the Frequency of rarely or hardly is impossible to determine, but the occasion can be definitely marked as in i did it at this time in that place and that is one occasion. If we were to use the measure occasionally then we can refer to the specific occasion and actually count the number of occasions.i.e., I did it this many times in my life.

    You are as subject to probability as any and I wouldn't bother making an effort to change a particular way of relating unless i was convinced it would improve my ability to relate more effectively. You can get by fine with inexact communication although we persistently get the impression that we are not well understood and this comes not from the incapacity to understand but from the lack of expertise in communicating precisely. An additional disadvantage is that people like me can give you problems when dissembling your symbolic constructs. i have enjoyed your company and I like speaking to multilingual persons. I hope we have things to discuss in the future.
     
  15. Individual

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    I agree that we ALL have a dependency in common with the environment to varying degrees, but that would be more appropriately discussed in a thread of its own as it doesn't help in answering this threads topic "Are Americans Racist?".

    I have yet to determine what it is you are trying to postulate relative to the term 'hardly ever' or 'rarely' as they are simply terms relating to frequency and NOT specific instances or time frames. The word 'occasionally' imparts no more accuracy than does 'hardly ever' or 'rarely' and its use instead would imply to me a greater frequency than that which would be implied had the words 'hardly ever' or 'rarely' been used instead. In any case, if specifics are needed, regardless of which word used the additional question asking when would be asked, and answered if it can be. I might say something like "I hardly ever meet anyone from New Zealand, but I occasionally meet people from Australia." That is a statement of fact, which imparts a meaning I intended.


    I simply try to say what I mean MOST of the time, and occasionally not rarely or hardly ever, depending on who I am conversing with employ some facetious remarks. It is never my intent to denigrate, but politics seems to be more useful as a tool to alienate rather than to unite people.

    Hopefully, should we engage in future discussion, it will remain congenial.
     
  16. Eleven

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    off on a tangent, so I can teach some history to y'all: I read that Thomas Jefferson calculated that his female slaves were more profitable as baby makers than as workers in the field. Now, THAT's inhuman thinking. Oh, I like TJ., though he was flawed. We must remember that in his day, there were no nice, enlightened leaders, anywhere, and the USA was above the rest. Japan's emperor. Russia's Czar. Britain's queen. Even Africa had its royalty, and someone in Africa was imprisoning other blacks and selling them to slave traders.

    worth more having babies than working in the fields . . We should remember that that kind of thinking is likely predominant in business, today. It's merely toned down and not said out loud. It's probably how Chase and The Koch Bros. view other humans.
     
  17. junglejack

    junglejack aiko aiko

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    Hi-E....
    ON off on a tangent??--No Offense,,at all...but I really don't think a history lessons to someone like me...who lived thru the civil rights era is gonna do much,, I know all about the Jefferson's, & Washington's,and others of that time plays much into the actions of today. However, that was 100 plus years ago. We have moved forward , but one would think that in 100 years much more progress would have been made in this area.

    If I misunderstood the post , I apologize- - I do agree with much of it
    respect,jjack
     
  18. Piney

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    Interracial marriage is way up.
     
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    outdated farm equipment rioting in malls is way up ...
     
  20. thedope

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    Those terms relate to a frequency that only your can measure.
    but anyway here is thread related to our failure of reason if you are interestsed so I can get out of this thread.
    http://www.hipforums.com/forum/topic/465031-very-rude-to-meet-you/#entry7680038
     
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