Are Americans Racist?

Discussion in 'Politics' started by Balbus, Nov 26, 2014.

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  1. Balbus

    Balbus Senior Member

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    What I’m saying is that while right wing people today who have Social Darwinist leanings might not be racist - some Social Darwinist ideas would be attractive to racists.

    Just as in the past having religious views didn’t mean you where racist but some religious ideas would have been attentive to racists.
     
  2. Pressed_Rat

    Pressed_Rat Do you even lift, bruh?

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    Many eugenicists, historically speaking, were racists. Was Margaret Sanger a right-winger?

    There's plenty of racist libtards. They're just not open about it because they would rather placate their egos by pretending to be "tolerant." It bolsters the pseudo-intellectual image they like to portray of themselves as elitists. They prefer to feel intellectually superior to others by appearing "cultured" rather than express their hatred and disgust openly.

    Some of most racist, bigoted people I have met have been of the liberal persuasion.
     
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  3. Balbus

    Balbus Senior Member

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    Oh there was a whole load of people from differing views that used to supported some type of eugenics to one degree or another including - President Teddy Roosevelt, President Woodrow Wilson, Winston Churchill, Alexander Graham Bell, George Bernard Shaw, and H.G. Wells. From supporting birth control to the advocating the sterilisation of people with mental health problems (feeble minded), many reversed their positions on it like H.G Wells.

    "from the end of the nineteenth century to the middle of the twentieth, eugenics enjoyed huge popular support amongst all sections of society. Eugenics was also supported by many socialists, feminists and anti-feminists, militarists and pacificists, as well, of course, as the majority of geneticists. In different countries eugenics took different forms, from the paternalistic social democratic eugenics of Sweden and Norway to the fascist eugenics of Germany. At present there is a eugenics law in the still officially communist China. Eugenics is a broad church that can embrace many different philosophies"

    But as I say I’m talking about Social Darwinism today in places like the US, the Social Darwinism that underpins a lot of ‘free market’ competition thinking, which is popular on the right.

    [SIZE=11pt]My dear Rat I don’t think you are mixing with the right people and as commented on before you are so far to the right that you thought George Bush was left wing, so hell knows who you call 'liberal'. [/SIZE]
     
  4. Karen_J

    Karen_J Visitor

    The KKK has always claimed to be a Christian organization.

    Racism continues to evolve, because it requires continuous rationalization. Every year, there are new facts for them to deny.
     
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  5. BlackBillBlake

    BlackBillBlake resigned HipForums Supporter

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    Appropriate use of inverted commas there.

    I don't know to what extent this applies in the USA, but here in Britain there seems to be a shift going on from old fashioned post imperialist racism, to dislike of immigrants based more on economic factors than just race or ethnicity.
    Immigrants we're told, just want to come here to claim welfare benefits and get fee healthcare.

    Studies have shown the fallacy of this argument, and immigrants contribute much more to the economy than they take out, but that doesn't seem to matter to the right wing media who continue with the general narrative that immigrants, especially those from Europe, and basically scroungers out for a free ride.
    I'm aware that in one way, this is a kind of subterfuge - immigrants are being scapegoated and blamed for the general economic mess which was in fact created by bankers and their politician friends.

    Also it's just one more way in which certain politicians and media will play the racism card but disguised as something else.
     
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  6. Moonglow181

    Moonglow181 Lifetime Supporter Lifetime Supporter

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    ^created diversion....to blame something else, while beurocracy flourishes.......keep the masses fighting small, insignificant shit.....while the big guns keep doing what they are doing...big companies run this country, and the govt is tailored to suit them.
     
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  7. renogirl_2

    renogirl_2 Wandering Sunflower

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    I lived with a black man growing up. What I don't get is why it's ok for them to put texts out there with the word "nigggaa" when it clearly refers to another word they find offensive.

    Language should be equal as well.

    Renogirl_2
     
  8. GeorgeJetStoned

    GeorgeJetStoned Odd Member

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    It should be obvious to everyone on the planet that MOST Americans are not racists at all. How could the nation possibly exist as it does now if that was not the case? If Americans really were just a nation of white supremacists (which was NEVER true), Obama wouldn't exist. Or he'd be working in a field.

    Anyone who thinks the Americans have not made amazing progress on the racial front is deluded.
     
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  9. GeorgeJetStoned

    GeorgeJetStoned Odd Member

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    Why can't I seem to quote anything?
     
  10. thedope

    thedope glad attention Lifetime Supporter

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    because you forgot what you thought?
     
  11. GeorgeJetStoned

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    No, because when I click quote, it doesn't quote. It just gives me an empty field. So lonely!
     
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  12. junglejack

    junglejack aiko aiko

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    The civil rights movement more than changing racial relations brought the problems to the surface so that they could be addressed either by laws or discussions, which to that point in time had not been approached on any real level. By those means, the discussions and the changes in the laws, race relations were changed. I remember the pretty early stages of the civil rights mov,t in this country. There was much hope ,much promise> somewhere we went off track
    It is my fear that those relations are strained again, almost to the breaking point.
    In some areas, however, to me, a lot more has to be done. White people have to be better taught that people from other ethnicities and religions are not threatening to them, but can and should be our allies and friends. That there is no difference between white and Black, Baptist and Jew, white , Iranian.etc..etc ....we are all people...and we should work towards understanding and peace..Jeeez.its 2015 time to get rid of the hate
     
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  13. Individual

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    I agree, we are all people, but as a species we possess greater differences from one another than any other species and it is because of those differences that we, as a species, have advanced and acquired dominance over all other species of life on our planet. It is not just 'white' people, but ALL people that need to stop looking at our differences and employing them as a basis to feel threatened.

    More often than not it seems politics is put to use in an attempt to segregate us rather than to integrate us, resulting in solutions to problems that result in creating more negative consequences to be contended with in the future, and without solving the original problem at all. Quite often there are multiple solutions to the same problem, and what works best for one may not work at all for another. I just finished ordering the forms to do my taxes for 2014 and I couldn't believe how many pages there are of forms to select from. Government tends to overly complicate everything it becomes involved in, does it not? I still maintain that a progressive tax implemented at the State level would result in less waste, corruption, and allow or require the Federal government to eliminate deficits. Sorry to get off topic, but the thread topic seems to promote division rather than unification.
     
  14. thedope

    thedope glad attention Lifetime Supporter

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    then you do not agree
     
  15. Individual

    Individual Senior Member

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    The words following 'but' explain where I disagree.
     
  16. thedope

    thedope glad attention Lifetime Supporter

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    then you do not agree with your explanation

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LR96KpaAMG8
     
  17. humanbeaing

    humanbeaing see you in paradise! HipForums Supporter

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    There are plenty of racists everywhere and people are racist to different degrees. It is a learned trait.
    Then there are also plenty of people that think racism is ignorant.
    Sure, we are different than each other, that is the spice of life! I would hate it if the whole world was white. Thats like eating oatmeal for dinner every night.
     
  18. thedope

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  19. Individual

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    Not at all, you simply have a problem comprehending what I wrote.

    To use your apples as an example, all apples are apples, but some are coloured differently, some are large and some are small, some are sweeter than others, some have a different texture than others, but still they are apples.
     
  20. thedope

    thedope glad attention Lifetime Supporter

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    You don't agree on apples or oranges
    https://www.youtube.com/user/colouredbeautiful
     
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