Are Americans Racist?

Equal opportunity is the true goal. The end results will be whatever they will be.

Music, for starters. Nearly half my collection is from black artists, including blues, jazz, old school R&B, Motown, hip hop, and rap. Without black influences, American music would be mostly bland shit.

Music is (mostly) processed by the same parts of the brain that handle math. So, maybe the education world needs to look at that fact and make some changes.

 

What constitutes improvement? Where is the metric for that scale? Which claim are you talking about? The one where I said I could teach you to reason? Or the claim that intelligence is responsive to new and difficult situations? Or that diversity assures biologic success over time? Where is your evidence that monoculture is an element of evolution?

 

Now I just feel like you're purposely playing dumb. White America has created the most mind numbingly boring culture ever. Without multiculturalism we would all be listening to Taylor Swift and eating fast food and Applebee's every day. And actually scratch Taylor Swift as all pop music is derived from blues and jazz which is derived from old slave spirituals. So it would just be applebees without the music. Now I am off to eat some Indian food, see ya later.

 

What constitutes improvement? More freedom of speech, less rape, less murder, fewer robberies, a less dogmatic populace, less inequality both intellectually and economically (same thing mostly), equal gender rights, equal LGBT rights, less corporal punishment. Pick any metric you want, just provide evidence. Say, look! Members of this 3rd world country moved to this Westernized country and the Westernized country got better!

Safer streets are probably the biggest concern. Start by showing a case where 3rd world immigrants do NOT contribute to crime at a higher clip than their westernized counterparts. Here's what England is dealing with as they try to cope with the members of the most r-selected group of humans on the planet.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Race_and_crime_in_the_United_Kingdom
In June 2010 The Sunday Telegraph, through a Freedom of Information Act request, obtained statistics on accusations of crime broken down by race from the Metropolitan Police Service.[n 2] The figures showed that the majority of males who were accused of violent crimes in 2009–10 were black. Of the recorded 18,091 such accusations against males, 54 percent accused of street crimes were black; for robbery, 59 percent; and for gun crimes, 67 percent.

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ewrAOs9cD3Y

Not so bad. I'll take it over a hiphop concert or club.

African people innovated drumming, props. There were no Eurasians then. Who invented the instruments for blues and jazz? Also please don't sleep on Beethoven and Mozart and Bach.

 

Ease of being is the metric I choose. Freedom of speech is a political issue along with a personal desire. Less of human activity means reduction in numbers not reduction in genetic proclivity. By equal gender rights do you mean that men should find a way to impregnate themselves? With every habitual use of technology our ability to respond to raw events diminishes. That is you put the city dweller in a position of systemic interruption he may find it difficult to respond. Institutionalized society is doomed to the life of the institution and to institutionalize is something we do with the insane. We see the cyclical rise and fall of civilizations occurring redundantly over time and that is do to the decrepit idea of social engineering.

 

Fa sho. I get that. Most of the stuff from black artists lately is complete shit but Bill Withers and Lauryn Hill taught me how to feel.

Can we all agree Nicki Minaj, Miley Cyrus, and Beyonce are terrible musicians?

 

1. Excellent FACT.

2. I'm unaware of any data that SUPPORTS racism.

3. The function of public education should only be to provide all children with the basic tools needed to advance their learning throughout their lives. Some learn more quickly or slowly than others, and that is true regardless of race.

In my past experience I noticed little difference in the treatment of a single black person by a group of white persons or a single white person by a group of black persons, while the lone black or lone white person may find much in common and create a friendship with individuals from either group when in a one on one environment.

 

[SIZE=11pt]Nerd [/SIZE]

[SIZE=11pt]Well this seem to contradict what was said earlier, were you lying? You said your childhood best friend who happened to be black was as intelligent as you and the same about a girl you dated who was black and the other black girl you dated you describe as being “[/SIZE][SIZE=11pt]really smart”. Then there are the four guys you claim are your friends and that you hang out with playing games and smoking weed, do they know you think them ‘inferior’? [/SIZE]

[SIZE=11pt]And can I confirm that you have never worked alongside black people and never had one as a boss and basically that the seven people you’ve mentioned are your only real personal contact? [/SIZE]

[SIZE=11pt]Also I’m wondering what criteria you used to assess them as being ‘[/SIZE][SIZE=11pt]intellectually inferior’ did you test them on problem solving? What ‘faulty conclusions’ did you think they came to and why did you think them faulty? As to knowing ‘basic computer programming concepts’ I’ve known university professors that didn’t know squat about computers, and I’ve known many people that struggle with mathematics. [/SIZE]

[SIZE=11pt]Again it seems to me that you came to some conclusions and then looked around to ‘see’ proof of those conclusion. [/SIZE]

 

You can't deal with statistics. We'll just leave it at that.

 

No one agrees with your manipulation of statistics at the service of lame brain ideals.
Done.

 

Nerd

I’m sure you would love to ‘leave it at that’ as you seem unable to address what I’ve raised.

[SIZE=11pt]As is often pointed out to researchers, something should always balance statistics, and personal knowledge and experience can be a good filter, there is a saying much loved by Mark Twain “There are three kinds of lies: lies, damned lies, and statistics."[/SIZE]

[SIZE=11pt]Someone should never [/SIZE][SIZE=11pt]ever just accept a statistic without question or thought as you seem to be suggesting. [/SIZE]

So I’ve been trying to work out why you have come to your conclusions, so I’m trying to look into your personal knowledge and experience of black people, to see why you think them ‘inferior’.

So far we seem to have discovered that your direct experience and knowledge of black people and their lives is very limited. [Three girls that you thought were as intelligent as you and four friends, three of whom you admit are petty criminals]. You don’t seem to have worked alongside black people nor ever had a black person as a boss.

The rest of your experience based ‘evidence’ is paltry and rather indirect you talk about driving through ghettos and seeing ‘welfare mothers’ (who I presume where black people) that you think have too many children and you saying that you do not likely that, and you talk of seeing black people playing basketball at the park and of not liking their behaviour and of course there is the incident of getting your iphone stolen which you believe was a black person. But that seems to be about it.

As I say you seem to have come to some conclusions and then gone out to try and find things that back up your conclusions.

 

All people have a little 'racism' inside them.

Whether they choose to act upon it or express it is a different matter.

How many 'hippie havens' have a significant % of black people?

None? Gee, I wonder why that is...

 

Well, the biggest one in this state is Asheville, and I don't know of any mountain communities in the Southeast that have a significant black population. Why do black people not like the mountains? I don't know.

 

Asheville has, probably, a higher % of black people than most hippie havens, you're right on the money about that.
I'm sure there may be a few others as well, Oakland, um... maybe a few others.

In general the cultures just don't mesh well.
Note: I said 'in general'...and it's a fine line from speaking about large groups of people and singling out individuals or looking down on them based on generalities. I always try and keep that in mind when I'm seeing someone from afar and mentally judging them. We all have inherited and ongoing biases inside us, I think. Combating racism in our minds is a start.

While still having your eyes open to the larger picture and such to steer your 'life/boat' into a more calm and peaceful future. As I've stated before, I grew up in a mostly black side of town, my very best friend growing up was black (they even told me not to knock on the door, just come in, though I never did) and I've gone to a 'traditionally black' community college.

Also, grew up in San Antonio, a minority majority city, so I have a fair bot of experience being the outsider and stuff.

Anyways, blah blah blah, personally I'm ready to live in a mostly white town or culture, as I've never done that in the 30+ years I've been alive, save 4 or 5 during high school, when I lived in a (basically) all white town outside of SA.

Take care, fine people, of every race!
Don't let race consume you, but being aware of your culture,
heritage and that of other people is good, too. ~ GoingHome.

 

It makes me sad that cultures don't seem to be mixing as well in New Orleans as they once did. I've never lived there, but it is my favorite place to hang out. It isn't as tolerant as it used to be, as black on white crime increases every year there.

I never have figured out why hippies have so little interest in the place, since it is known for a lot of the values that we supposedly embrace. It's a very peace-loving place, with very little interest in conformity, and a strong love for music.

 

Crime rate is remarkably bad.

I've only been once, as an adult, and even then it was
pretty fun as long as you stuck to the main thoroughfare.
But I wouldn't live there for all the money in the world.
Outside of NO there's...well there's not much of anything.

The trees and nature is pretty nice in the Deep South, though.
Culturally it's about as opposite from my values as I can imagine.

And, I have a lot of family in Alabama and used to visit there yearly as a kid.

 

Scary LSD trip scene in Easy Rider..

 

I'll drink to that. Actually I have, many times.

When you're deep in the action on Bourbon Street, surrounded by people who love music and dancing, and everybody is accepting everybody else, regardless of superficial qualities (race, age, money, sexual orientation, religion, etc.), life just doesn't get much better than that.

 

Is racial reconciliation a legal issue or is it a moral issue?