Arafat dead?

Discussion in 'U.K.' started by Zonk, Nov 4, 2004.

  1. kppdlevel1

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    I gotta tell you, I'm not too worried about it. A terrorist dying is no reason for me to shed a tear.
     
  2. Maon

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    and pray tell us your definition of a terroist .. in what way is it different from a anarchist, of which a vast majority of us may well be and where do the superpowers fit in .. if you define a terroist as someone who kils people illegally, including innocents, to further their cause then I would be interested to hear your views in more detail rather than just a flippant comment.

    peace :)
     
  3. DoktorAtomik

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    Uhhhh.... I think Israel kinda beat them to it!
     
  4. BraveSirRubin

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    Are you truly as ignorant?

    If the terrorists were not hiding together with children and if the parents would not let children go and throw stones at tanks...no children would die.

    You do not see Israeli children from the settlements running into Palestinian refugee camps with stones, do you.... "why?", you ask. Common used by both the parents and the children!
     
  5. showmet

    showmet olen tomppeli

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    So, what exactly are you saying here ... these kids are asking for it? They deserve it?
     
  6. Paul

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    Are you truly that ignorant?

    The only reason these so called terrorists exist in the first place is because they were forced from their homes by the Israeli military.

    Or are you saying that the way Israel expanded it's territory was completely justified and that the Palestinians should all shut up moaning?
     
  7. DoktorAtomik

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    So here you all are, justifying the killing of Palestinian CHILDREN, and you wonder why so many muslims hate the west?
     
  8. BraveSirRubin

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    Israel took them out of their homes? I do not see any 50 yaer old suicide bombers running around. Those could have been taken out of their homes someday.

    You know what, I wish that the Irish and Scots rebell against you and start bombing you, for the land you long ago occupyied... lets see how you feel then. You are talking from an ignorant western perspective.
     
  9. moonydancer

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    err...The irish already rebelled themselves.

    The southern ones.
     
  10. Claire

    Claire Senior Member

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    Please stop calling people ignorant?:)

    I suggest you read up on our UK history and you will see that we have had our fair share of invasions and "rebellions".
     
  11. BraveSirRubin

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    Ay, and did people complain about human rights violations when you handled them?
     
  12. Claire

    Claire Senior Member

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    I haven't handled anyone:eek:
     
  13. BraveSirRubin

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    Israelis invaded it? That piece of land was invaded so many times, that I frankly lost count.
     
  14. Paul

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    Actually we did have this problem until quite recently. To many of the British these people were terrorists, to others they were freedom fighters.

    In the end the British government agreed to talk to the Irish "terrorists" and now we have what seems like a peaceful compromise.

    The British government, as much as I don't like them, as far as I know never took to deliberately gunning down children .... and if they did, nobody would have condoned it in the same way that you seem to be doing.
     
  15. Paul

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    or never counted in the first place
     
  16. showmet

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    Yes, quite... there have been a few, relatively minor but comparable atrocities committed by the British military against the Irish such as Bloody Sunday, I'm certain that those of us who are appalled by Israeli tactics in the illegally occupied Palestinian territories are also appalled by these occasions when the British have shot indiscriminately at civilians, not to mention some of the questionable covert operations and extra-judicial assassinations. Talking of ignorance, it's always surprised me that people assume that since you are British you support all actions of the British military. It's just like being Israeli doesn't necessarily mean you support the right-wing Israeli government, Israeli military brutality and aggression or the use of state-terrorist tactics. It's not a function of nationality, it's a function of being a right-wing tosser...
     
  17. showmet

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    Oh and ... *cough* ever hear of the IRA? :rolleyes:
     
  18. BraveSirRubin

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    Shite, and how exactly did the government handle the IRA? Did it not practicaly remove all of the IRA members from existance?
     
  19. Paul

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    Actually it didn't (unless you mean internment ~ which is a bit different from machine gunning) ... So where did you get that information from?
     
  20. showmet

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    With comparatively few incidents involving helicopter gunships, dead children and bulldozed houses.
     

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