I did something the other day that I have never done. I had a family member call me the most vile disgusting things for really no reason, instead of being reviling and responding with anger, I responded in a very mild way, explaining my side and how their words had hurt my feelings, the response from them was incredible and they apologized for what they had said and responded back to me in a very nice way. This scripture from proverbs really helped me "a mild tongue can break a bone" Have you ever really actually applied a bible principle? try it, you will be amazed at the results
Couldn't resist :2thumbsup: Point being, the bible's not so great... you are a better moral compass for yourself than a musty old book that has been re-written a ridiculous amount of times to fit certain peoples agendas that the original book didn't agree with.
I suppose I try and live by "He who is without sin should cast the 1st stone." While that might be in the Bible, it wasn't originated by the Bible and the concept exists across time and peoples. The Bible does have some good wisdom within its' pages, but most of it can be found universally.
i find speaking in tongues makes good enough song lyrics when the melody also is made on the same principle as being so free and with spirit .
You should know that you not become frustrated that some require much prayer and fasting. This means that your good result may not be immediately apparent and sometimes your practice must exceed what apparent circumstances suggest.
Anybody can see that ecstasy and conscience meditation through prayer and fasting IS NOT the answer. Ecstasy is a lot the self-criticism of the Marxist. Bible principles is broadly about knowing the common essence of Freedom.:sunny:
The common essence of freedom is that the light of one mind fans the spark to flaming in another. The prayer is always the same and fasting is patience.
Every astronomer — besides Occultists and Astrologers — knows that, figuratively, the astral light, the milky way, and also the path of the Sun to the tropics of Cancer and Capricorn, as well as the circles of the Sidereal or Tropical year, were always called “Serpents” in the allegorical and mystic phraseology of the adepts. This, cosmically, as well as metaphorically. Poseidon is a “Dragon”: “Chozzar, called by the profane Neptune” (Peratae Gnostics); the “Good and Perfect Serpent,” the Messiah of the Naaseni, whose symbol in Heaven is Draco. But one ought to discriminate between the characters of this symbol. For instance: Zoroastrian Esotericism is identical with that of the Secret Doctrine; and when, as an example, we read in the Vendidad complaints uttered against the “Serpent,” whose bites have transformed the beautiful, eternal spring of Airyana-Vaego, changing it into winter, generating disease and death, at the same time as mental and psychic consumption, every occultist knows that the Serpent alluded to is the north pole, as also the pole of the heavens.* The latter produces the seasons according to the angle at which it penetrates the centre of the earth. The two axes were no more parallel; hence the eternal spring of Airyana Vaego by the good river Daitya had disappeared, and “the Aryan Magi had to emigrate to Sagdiani” — say the exoteric accounts. But the esoteric teaching states that the pole had passed through the equator, and that the “land of bliss” of the Fourth Race, its inheritance from the Third, had now become the region of desolation and woe. This alone ought to be an incontrovertible proof of the great antiquity of the Zoroastrian Scriptures. The Neo-Aryans of the post-diluvian age could, of course, hardly recognise the mountains, on the summits of which their forefathers had met before the Flood, and conversed with the pure “Yazathas” (celestial Spirits of the Elements), whose life and food they had once shared. As shown by Eckstein (Revue Archeologique, 8th year, 1885), “the Vendidad seems to point out a great change in the atmosphere of central Asia; strong volcanic eruptions and the collapse of a whole range of mountains in the neighbourhood of the Kara-Korum chain.” The Egyptians, according to Eusebius, who for once (and for a wonder) wrote the truth, symbolised Kosmos by a large fiery circle, representing a serpent with a hawk’s head lying across its diameter. “Here we have the pole of the earth within the plane of the ecliptic, attended with all the fiery consequences that must arise from such a state of the heavens: when the whole Zodiac in 25,000 (odd) years, must have reddened with the solar blaze, and each sign must have been vertical to the polar region.” (See Mackey’s “Sphinxiad.”) Meru — the abode of the gods — was placed, as before explained, in the North Pole, while Patala, the nether region, was supposed to lie in the South. As each symbol in esoteric philosophy has seven keys, geographically, Meru and Patala have one significance and represent localities; while astronomically, they have another, and mean “the two poles,” which meanings ended by their being often rendered in exoteric sectarianism — the “Mountain” and the “Pit,” or Heaven and Hell. If we hold at present only to the astronomical and geographical significance, it may be found that the ancients knew the topography and nature of the Arctic and Antarctic regions better than any of our modern astronomers; they had reasons, and good ones for naming one the “Mountain” and the other the “Pit.” As the author just quoted half explains, Helion and Acheron meant nearly the same: “Heli-on is the Sun in the highest” (Helios, Heli-on, the “most high”); “and Acheron is 32 deg. above the pole, and 32 below it, the allegorical river being thus supposed to touch the northern horizon in the latitude of 32 degrees. The vast concave, that is for ever hidden from our sight and which surrounded the southern pole, being therefore called the Pit, while observing, toward the Northern pole that a certain circuit in the heavens always appeared above the horizon — they called it the Mountain. As Meru is the high abode of the Gods, these were said to ascend and descend periodically; by which (astronomically) the Zodiacal gods were meant, the passing of the original North Pole of the Earth to the South Pole of the heaven.” “In that age,” adds the author of that curious work, the “Sphinxiad” and of “Urania’s Key to the Revelations” — “at noon, the ecliptic would be parallel with the meridian, and part of the Zodiac would descend from the North Pole to the north horizon; crossing the eight coils of the Serpent (eight sidereal years, or over 200,000 solar years), which would seem like an imaginary ladder with eight staves reaching from the earth up to the pole, i.e., the throne of Jove. Up this ladder, then, the Gods, i.e., the signs of the Zodiac, ascended and descended. (Jacob’s ladder and the angels) . . . . It is more than 400,000 years since the Zodiac formed the sides of this ladder.” . . . . This is an ingenious explanation, even if it is not altogether free from occult heresy. Yet it is nearer the truth than many of a more scientific and especially theological character. As just said, the Christian trinity was purely astronomical from its beginning, which made Rutilius say — of those who euhemerized it — “Judaea gens, radix stultorum.” But the profane, and especially the Christian fanatics, ever in search of scientific corroboration for their dead-letter texts, will persist in seeing in the celestial pole the true Serpent of Genesis, Satan, the Enemy of mankind, instead of what it is — a cosmic metaphor. When the gods are said to forsake the earth, it does not only mean the gods, protectors and instructors, but also the minor gods — the regents of the Zodiacal signs. Yet, the former, as actual and existing Entities which gave birth to, nursed, and instructed mankind in its early youth, appear in every Scripture, in that of the Zoroastrians as much as in the Hindu Gospels. Ormazd, or Ahura-Mazda, the “Lord of Wisdom,” is the synthesis of the Amshaspends (or Amesha-Spenta — “Immortal Benefactors”),* the “Word,” however, or the Logos and its six highest aspects in Mazdyanism. These “Immortal Benefactors” are described in Zamyad yasht as the “Amesha-Spentas, the shining, having efficacious eyes, great, helpful . . . . imperishable and pure which are all seven of like mind, like speech, all seven doing alike . . . . which are the creators and destroyers of the creatures of Ahura-Mazda, their creators and overseers, their protectors and rulers . .
oh , those fanatical metaphors ! turning wine into water or water into wine has about the same effect on the drinker . making wine into water seems easier - a pretty good reggae bar band can do that , and you can notice people aren't stumblin'round and talkin'stupid .
Well, at least adherents have choices--An eye for an eye or turn the other cheek. Just pick what you like.