Anyone else think the moon landing was a fake?

Quoting a 20 year old movie may get a laugh from some people on here, but your failing to see the point. Your one of the sheep who believes that the media and scientific community have some sort of obligation/desire to be honest. Until you really do your research you'll never understand their motives or how deep the lies really go. So as I said, nothing will convince you otherwise.

 

I work with group of 6 medical people, 5 physicians and one mathematician/computer programmer. We study the medical aspects of the Apollo fraud among other things. Here is a link to one of our videos. You can check it out. We have lots to say about the fraud and its consequences.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=53iSQC3-45M&feature=plcp

 

As mention in the post above, my group focuses on medical issues. We play to our strength. Some of the medical problems we have identified which prove Apollo fraudulent are;

1) Borman's nausea/vomiting/diarrhea in cislunar space during the Apollo 8 mission can be easily demonstrated phony, a feigned illness, and so by implication, the Apollo 8 mission, all of it, can be demonstrated staged as well.

2) Alan Shepard's Meniere's Disease "cure" can be shown to be a con, inconsistent with the medicine of the day, and this day as well. Ergo, Apollo is fraudulent.

3) Deke Slayton's atrial fibrillation "cure" can likewise be shown to be a con, inconsistent with the medicine of the day, and this day as well. Ergo, Apollo is fraudulent.

4) Charlie Duke's rubella diagnosis, not to mention its alleged threat to Ken Mattingly, can also be shown to be a con, inconsistent with the medicine of the day , and this day as well. Ergo, Apollo is fraudulent.

 

Well,I was quietly reading all the posts,got to thinking [coz I can,if it's not for too long] and called up 'Photos of Apollo landing sights'.

There are a LOT more than I expected,mostly taken from a lunar satellite orbiting 25k above the moon's surface and they do appear to show the equipment left behind.
One picture even shows the moonbuggy's tracks and the vehicle itself,just sitting there abandoned.

I don't have any feelings on this either way-it was just history I lived through as a youngster-but surely India,China,Russia,Australia,Gt Britain,most of Europe,2/3 of Asia and most of SOUTH America would have noticed,if the Apollo mission had just gone into orbit for a few days before pretending to come back in triumph from the Moon?

I mean,the whole PLANET had it's eyes firmly fixed on that mission,many of those people were from regimes that would be only too pleased to discredit NASA and rip the claims to bits loudly and for ever.

I bloody hope they WERE real,coz if it WAS all a hoax,it means the only thing mankind has ever achieved is the wheel-everything else becomes merely a discovery or improvement.
And although wheels are good,I wouldn't want to go to the Moon on one.

 

My group of docs began studying Apollo in April of 2011. As mentioned, our focus initially were medical concerns. Needless to say, it was inevitable we'd start to turn up other things, non medical issues that proved Apollo bogus. One of my group's favorites is something we refer to as "LOST BIRD".

LOST BIRD references the condition of the Eagle, the Apollo 11 LM as it sought to find itself that storied evening, 07/20/1969. It turns out no one knew exactly where it had landed and a careful study of NASA's losing their bird provides proof positive of Apollo's fraudulence.

We have come a long way on the topic. A modern presentation of our discoveries is forthcoming. that said, here are 3 links to our original posts on the subject, very worthwhile reading despite their length. A great way to get started on the "lost bird" topic for the highly motivated. A subject that must be mastered if one aspires to understand the logistics, the machinations, of the fraud.

As it turns out, they "lost" some of the other landers in a similar fashion as well. Here are some of my group's early writings on the subject;

1) http://apollohoax.proboards.com/index.cgi?action=display&board=theories&thread=3203&page=1#91676

2) http://apollohoax.proboards.com/index.cgi?action=display&board=theories&thread=3203&page=9#92052

3) http://apollohoax.proboards.com/index.cgi?action=display&board=theories&thread=3203&page=9#92053

 

so roorshack presented some evidence
so you countered by presenting another theory
so i criticised the theory
so you countered
so then i reinforced roorshacks evidence with a load of facts, figures and statistical evidence
and then you responded by saying that no matter how unlikely; the people involved would have planned to account for everything that could possibly appear to be evidence for my case, thus discrediting anything that i could possibly say with no justification.

there is literally no piece of evidence compelling enough, no eyewitness testimony, no appeal to logic, that cannot be instantly countered with this claim. no matter what i bring up, the powers that be "planned for it".

what you have is not a conspiracy theory, friend. it's conspiracy FAITH.
a single, unassailable belief that the moon landing was fake which makes you completely unreceptive to the evidence of any opposing argument.

and i can't argue with faith using only only logic and evidence. simply can't be done.

maybe that makes me one of the ridiculous "sheeple" who's blind to "THE TRUTH" but at least if i'm wrong, i know that i reached my conclusions by engaging my critical faculties and trying to consider the problem objectively rather than just blindly believing either one side or the other.

so i'm off have fun with the truth.

 

Not fake.

 

Thank you finally someone with some sensibility

After the retirement of Art Bell coast to coast am isn’t as good as it once was but I’m still a regular listener.

Hotwater

 

Ok folks, yet another shining example of the stupendous intellect it takes to believe this nonsense.

This guy, fattydash, is such a brain child that the links to "his groups writings" are to a forum, Apollohoax.net, from which he, fattydash, had been banned. Apollohoax.net is a site/forum that debunks just about every stupid fucking thing that has been presented here.

So the braintrust of this group of conspiracy lunatics is so smart that he links to a site that he was banned from AND it is also a site that is committed to showing these lunatics that believe it was faked for the imbeciles they are.

so any of you wanting to get more FACTS or just debate this stupidity to death, check it out.
Thanks for the links fattydash.


priceless.....absofuckinglutely priceless. :smilielol5:

 

Rather than violate forum rules by name calling why don’t you simply present your arguments and counterpoints.


Hotwater

 

Why, you've already plainly stated that you believe what you believe and NOTHING will ever convince you otherwise.

Name calling??
All I did was refer to people who believe this idiocy as "imbeciles".

im·be·cile

noun
1. Informal . a dunce; blockhead; dolt.

2. Psychology . (no longer in technical use) a person of the second order in a former and discarded classification of mental retardation, above the level of idiocy, having a mental age of seven or eight years and an intelligence quotient of 25 to 50.

Sounds pretty accurate. I wasn't name calling, I was just using an archaic medical term, but if the shoe fits......

 

You're one of the sheep who believes that the online community have some sort of obligation/desire to be honest. Until you really do your research you'll never understand their motives or how deep the lies really go. So as I said, nothing will convince you otherwise.

Stalemate.

 

Repeating my statement nearly word for word. Wow that was clever, I am on your side now. How could I have been so blind. Thank you for convincing me with that well thought statement.

 

As I said, nothing will convince you otherwise.

 

Given that the whole point of the Apollo programme was to prove the superiority of the US over the USSR in space, you'd have thought that if it was a fake the Russians would either have come out saying so, or alternatively staged their own faked moon landing.

Neither, however, took place.....which seems to suggest that the US fooled Russia, if it was a fake.

Or it could have been real. Which it was. I note that none of the conspiracy theorists have addressed my earlier post about the lunar signals routed through Parkes, Australia......

 

...Or that there are pics from the lunar orbiter showing the left behind machinery and the tracks......

 

...Or that there are no videos of the supposedly "waving" flag....

 

It’s time to put things in their proper context.

In 1959 the soviet union managed to crash Luna 2 onto the moon surface.

In the eyes of the world the United States was diminished and soviet union reigned supreme.

In 1962 the United States followed up with ranger 4 and the race was on. There were a number of failed and successful missions on each side but it was clear the soviet union was winning the propaganda war.

The United States was desperate so some government pinhead came up with a bold and daring solution to simply fake the manned mission to the moon. The plan was set in motion a few years prior to 1969 with the cooperation of the astronaut corps, high ranking NASA officials, and the NSA.

Apparently it worked because just about everyone was completely fooled.


hotwater

 

^
Yep

The Soviets actually lose many men in space because they were able to launch them but had no idea how to bring them back. This was not made public but by tuning to Sputnik's radio frequency (which they made public to brag) you could hear all this. Pretty sad but if you understood Russian you heard the frantic cries of the cosmonotes as they died.

 

And the signal through Australia??


Anyone? Anyone at all?