Anyone else really actively oppose circumcision?

Research is always a good thing!

... being a guy helps too I think. Ahaha

 

Why, because you are emotionally attached to your penis as only a boys club could be? haha

You have the right to your opinion and so do I. It does not come down to gender and mine does not negate my views.


Seriously, research is a good thing as not all things are black or white. The statement you have not heard of that does not mean it does not exist or is not common.

As I stated I am not for or against as each person makes a decision, be that a parent or later in life the adult themselves and sometimes in the event of medical reasons, the decision has to be made that is not necessarily what someone might wish but may be the best option.

 

Watch this & say it doesn't hurt. The baby is strapped to a crucifix reminiscent of a condemned criminal undergoing Lethal Injection.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F2pMoFKSrL0"]Stop Infant Circumcision Coming This Fall 2013 - YouTube

 

Seeing as I already vehemently oppose it and believe it to be despicable, I will not watch that lol

But yeah! Ban it!!

At least to minors who therefore cannot give consent

End the insanity and let's have real decisions by people on their own wellbeing!

 

are you active yet or just bitchin here

 

There aren't enough hours in the day to be truly "active" in every sense of the word on all the topics that mean something to me.

When I said "actively" I meant people who not only think it's wrong, but would be willing to push against it. It is possible to be active to different degrees.

Somebody who holds up a placard is active on a topic, but someone who simply spreads awareness to others, signs any petitions that exist, encourages their friends to or not to do the act in question... it's all activity! People have different degrees of it though, for sure.

 

I think circumcision should only be considered if really necessary.

Besides, uncircumcised penises are so beautiful and so delicious to suck.

 

That's exactly what I was thinking. He sure does talk the talk, but doesn't seem to walk the walk.

What about all the hours you spend on here?

 

What the fuck happened to "I'm not going to make decisions for someone else" bullshit??????

so your kid, now twelve and fully able to understand the situation wants to have it done and you would say no?

Your full of shit.

 

Holy Shit, there sure are a lot of people at HF that could stand to heed that advice!:2thumbsup:

 

IF at twelve he would have a clear sense of what he wants than the OP should consider letting his kid make that choice I agree. Saying at first instance to his 12 year old son that it's better to decide when he's a little closer to adulthood does not immediatly makes him full of shit...
Insisting his son does not cut off his foreskin until he's around 16 or something sounds a bit harsh but deciding the other way around (cut it off when he's a baby) is still more harsh I think. It's (arguably) more serious than getting a tattoo which is also commonly postponed for kids by their parents until they're around 16 or something.

 

No, but juxtaposed against the backdrop of all the other stuff he's been spouting, he's full of shit, or more accurately, is young and ran with this thread before thinking much about it or doing any actual background research, as has been evidenced by his ignorance of the real medical reasons that circumcisions are done and thinking it is always solely for cosmetic reasons.
So maybe not full of shit, but naive'.

Hell, that was a long sentence

 

I just find it very hard to believe that a 12 year old child could make a decision like that. I mean, with a lot of things in this world you set a cut-off somewhere don't you? Like here in the UK it's 18 for alcohol, 16 for marriage, 18 for smoking, etc.

So it makes sense to have one for circumcision as well. 12 just seems way too young. How can you understand a decision like that when you're 12? You don't even fully understand that part of you at 12 lol

Of course I would be more flexible on that than on circumcisions at birth, but I do agree that sometimes you have to make decisions for your children (I never debated that point) and I feel that saying "You're too young to make that call just yet" is a perfectly reasonable decision to make.

Surely you guys understand where I'm coming from on this?

 

Yes, you sound reasonable enough to me.

 

But it is their body, not yours, right? That is what your entire argument against male circumcision has revolved around.

 

Sig, you don't see the difference in taking their foreskin unasked at birth and telling them to wait a few years before letting them decide on their own if they would come up with the idea at 12?

 

In the context of how Hoppípolla has framed his entire argument in this thread, no I don't. If he is in fact so hung up on it being their body then he is hypocritical in objecting to a 12 year old boy making a decision about his own body.

That said, I see no problem with two parents making the call for their newborn son.

 

exactly.

If the concern is about a 12 year old understanding all the ramifications of such a decision or any major choice at that age, isn't it the parents responsibility to educate him and make certain he does know the pros and cons. The choice, according to Hoppipolla's argument, still rests with the child, but with intelligent parents, he can make an informed choice.
To say that they are just too young to understand sounds more like lazy parenting.
Don't underestimate kids ability to understand serious/complex situations.
That is called parenting.:2thumbsup:

 

It is supported by religion. Do we know better than God - who created us - on what is best for our bodies??!!!!! All prophets got circumized, regardless of what "modern book updates" might tell you. God only wants the very best for us.

Iam circumised and Im very very sensative and I have so much sex pleasure like I can not describe.

There are other researches that shows the opposite too, when a ciscumisation is done specially at a younger age the brain distributes the sensation on all of the penis body instead of the glad and foreskin only, same applies to women.

We need to enforce the idea of the "correct circumisation" as per the holy books, not as per stupid uneducated traditions.

Becuase in some uneducated tribes they almost cut out the whole female lips and the lady has no pussy lips left and that destroyes her pleasure. That is technicaly NOT called circumisation, that is technically should called "gentalia removal". That im very much against and NO proper religion (Judism, Christian, Muslim) would require such a crap.

 

You understand that this is not a religious forum, right?