Anyone else really actively oppose circumcision?

Discussion in 'Genitalia' started by Hoppípolla, Nov 13, 2013.

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  1. Sig

    Sig Senior Member

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    It has to do with making a choice for your child, not just somebody else, Hop. You're straying into dangerous territory when you start messing with a parent's choice of what is best for their child.

    You, like BBAD, are comparing apples and oranges. The clitoris is, in no way, comparable in terms of function or scope.
     
  2. Sig

    Sig Senior Member

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    And that is fine when it comes to your child....
     
  3. Hoppípolla

    Hoppípolla Senior Member

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    Actually, I do have a child on the way but it's a long story... one that involves a gf/ex skipping contraceptive pills without telling me...

    But anyway... the point is, she thinks it is male, but she will know for sure very soon.

    And... I really don't think it's my business to make that decision for the new person.

    It's not my penis, ergo it's not my decision.
     
  4. Hoppípolla

    Hoppípolla Senior Member

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    No no, freedom of choice doesn't apply to making decisions that affect other people, just when they affect only yourself. If I wanted to murder somebody, should I be allowed to do that? What if I wanted to murder my own offspring? I should be allowed to because it's my child? My business?

    Puh-lease! xD

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  5. Sig

    Sig Senior Member

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    Are you seriously this dense? You're attempting to compare/equate a parent's decision to circumcise their male new born with murdering someone?
     
  6. Sig

    Sig Senior Member

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    That is fine. Your kid, your decision.
     
  7. Hoppípolla

    Hoppípolla Senior Member

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    No no that's my point, it's NOT my decision. It's the NEW PERSON'S decision.

    Because... I'm not them! :)
     
  8. *MAMA*

    *MAMA* Perfectly Imperfect

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    Hopi, when your child is born, you'll understand that you will have to make many decisions FOR your child. Your attitude of "it's not my body, it's not my decision" will go out the window pretty quick. Don't want YOUR child to get circumcised? Cool. Don't have it done then.Just don't be stomping around acting like parents don't have a responsibility to make decisions for their child.

    All of us who are parents are just doing the best we can. There is no right and wrong in these situations. It's not like we're all sitting in the corner of the procedure room with an evil laugh while it's being done.
     
  9. pipgirl

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    I get Hop's point. Not my decision to make. I have a lot of piercings, but i wouldn't pierce my baby's ears. Although i don't think it's as bad either, because piercings are temporary whereas circumcision is not.

    Exactly.
     
  10. Hoppípolla

    Hoppípolla Senior Member

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    I just don't think that any of those decisions should involve cutting off or permanently altering any parts of their body.
     
  11. EventHorizon

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    Im with hopi on this one. I understand where he's coming from.
     
  12. pipgirl

    pipgirl Member

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    Parents do have a responsibility to make decisions for their children. But this is sth that has no medical reason. It's cutting off a piece of thier body mainly for aesthetic reasons, religious reasons and/ or tradition.
     
  13. Hoppípolla

    Hoppípolla Senior Member

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    Overall it does seem to be a very polarizing issue. It's very interesting how many people are on both sides, and how some take the middle ground as well.

    I really don't want to attack or upset anyone... I just, as a guy, feel strongly about it.

    I feel like we really come down hard on mutilation or alteration of female genitalia, but when it's a guy it doesn't seem to matter as much.

    I think it's terrible because I would have hated to have had that decision made for me. I like to be natural, the way I was first made, without messing around with that. I know that if I had been circumcised I would feel pretty junky about it.

    That's why I care about the issue to the extent I do.

    It's a hard one to fight out though and I know it's a sensitive topic >.<
     
  14. *MAMA*

    *MAMA* Perfectly Imperfect

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    I not for or against it, but I'm also I'm no position to tell another parent what they should/shouldn't do for their child.

    What if your child someday needs braces? Will you deny them those because the end result is purely aesthetic?
     
  15. drumminmama

    drumminmama Super Moderator Super Moderator

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    As a parent, it IS.

    Let's say your child gets, g-d forbid, appendicitis. You have to make the decision for surgery for your child.
    Or, less life threatening, ear tubes.
    Sure they are over used but a small percentage of people, children and adults, need tubes to handle severe infections.
    If your child has frequent, severe infections, ear tubes are worth considering.
    They will leave scarring, slightly, very very slightly affecting hearing.
    Do you decide to have a tiny hole made in the ear drum?
     
  16. Hoppípolla

    Hoppípolla Senior Member

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    but surely you see the difference? it doesn't involve removing anything from the child. plus, by that age, they are at least capable of making SOME decisions for themselves to some degree. braces aren't going to particularly permanently change the body.

    I think the difference is that with circumcision you're actually taking something AWAY, and something significant as well (believe it or not I care about every part of my penis haha).
     
  17. *MAMA*

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    Actually... braces do permanently change the body. That's the whole point of them. There is no difference. It's all body modification for the purpose of aesthetics. Since your stuck on things being removed from the body, what about wisdom teeth being removed? If you knew they were going to mess up your child's teeth? Would you leave them in?

    My point, Hoppi, is that the world of parenting is not as black and white as you're making it out to be. Reality will soon set in, and you will realize you can't prance through parenting with an "it's not my body" point of view.
     
  18. Fairlight

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    Circumcision is completely unnecessary.As for getting your baby's ears pierced,that is just ridiculous and only goes to satisfy the vanity of the parents.
     
  19. Hoppípolla

    Hoppípolla Senior Member

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    We seem to have more against than for so far (I make it about 7 against and 3 or 4 for) but... what I find more interesting is that most of the people against it seem to be male. Surely that's quite telling?
     
  20. Jo King

    Jo King wannabe

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    maybe you should get "active"

    You make a lot of decisions for a child from the time they are born. Right or wrong in your mind doesn't make it right or wrong.


    When it comes to life decisions I'm not going to take into consideration what someone says on a anonymous forum.

    How do you feel about immunisation?
     
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